JX Vs JX Raptor for 50lb jig rig

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  1. Cypriss32

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    I’m looking to upgrade my current 4/0 Narrow YTS with full stainless internals. I am looking at the JX as a replacement 50lb jig reel. However, I might also use it in a pinch for 50LB bait rig.
    For running 65/60 lb spectra with 50lb top shot is the Raptor worth the extra $100.00?
     
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    Yes. JX Raptor fits 50lb niche perfectly.
     
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    No. Raptor only has more drag. With 50lb. line the jx gives you all you want + $100.00.
     
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    I own them both and fished them both at Guadalupe last week. The JX raptor is the way to go. The regular JX is really only a 40lb reel. The JX raptor will fish 40, 50 and even 60lb with no problem. The biggest issue for me is that the JX raptor has a positive stop at the strike position. It stops you from going too far when you set the hook and applying too much drag. The regular JX only has an indent and it is easy to go too far when you set the hook. That difference cost me a nice fish last week. I think that you can modify the regular JX but why bother when you can just get the raptor version and get double the drag plus no handle binding a high drag settings. I have 3 regular JX's that are going to the fishing tackle swap on Nov 4th and I will use the money to buy 2 JX raptors.
     
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    I too have both and use the JX 6/3 for 40# and the JX Raptor for 50#. You could split the difference and go with the JX 6/3 G2 which will handle 50#. The JX 6/3 is rated at 15# of drag at strike, the G2 at 21# and the Raptor at 28#.
     
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    Raptor all the way...….
     
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    Raptor upgrade is always worth it. The reels will last a lifetime and having the extra versatility will come in handy down the road.

    I own two and can vouch for their performance and durability.
     
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    I also own both. Most of my fish have been caught the the old JX2. The raptor is great for 50 but my old JXs cast better.
     
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    If you plan on running the tee at the higher end of the drag ratings then I would suggest the raptor. There are a few things to consider but I will mention what I see as the most important concerns when loading the drag up.
    First, Avets usually have the pinion bearing go out because it takes a lot of the load. The less you load it up (drag pressure) the longer it typically last. Second, drag fade,,, the longer you use the drag the more heat is introduced the more fade you get. If you plan on running 50lb test then you will typically be targeting large fish. There could be a time where a larger fish hits your bait and you don’t want that fade to happen at the end of your fight.
     
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    Fishing 50# the regular JX doesn't have enough drag pressure for me. I would say the Raptor.
     
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    Thank you for the responses, I decided to get the JX raptor and the HXW Raptor. I wish I bought the HX Raptor to. But I already bought the HX in sale for 1/3 off.
     
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    I think you will find that most fishermen feel they need more drag than they actually use. Consider the standards that have been used for years by many fishing mono, then adjust for the no-stretch factor of braid. Then analyze the length of your top-shot, with a longer top-shot allowing for more stretch and less shock. And finally, the length and action of the rod to be used.

    For years, these were the standards used, when mono was king, for setting drag. Lever drags allow you to easily adjust up and down with accuracy, stars do not.

    Light lines up to 20lbs - 20% of breaking strength
    25 - 60lbs - 25% of breaking strength
    80lb + 30% of breaking strength.

    These we're not rules, but guidelines and each individual adjusted to their preferred settings.

    In the days of short top-shots and no-stretch braid, some will say to fish with a lighter setting at strike than with mono, especially if your rod does not have the length or flex needed to provide the shock-absorption you had with mono.

    Now looking at 50lb line, taking the mono standard in to play you would be fishing at approximately 13lbs at strike based on a 25% standard. 15lbs at a 30% standard.

    Take that same reel, and after 50% of the spool has been emptied on a long run, your drag is now effectively doubled to 26-30lbs. This is when you would back off the drag settings from strike to reduce the chance of breaking off a hot fish.

    The JX G2, with 21lbs rating at strike, is more than capable of fishing 50lb. Even the standard JX would be considered by some to be an option if no other reels were available, but it would be at the max of its ability at strike and is really a 40lb reel.


    Accurate has an interesting article on drag dynamics that is a good read.
    https://www.accuratefishing.com/b-cs-drag-dynamics-set-drag/
     
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    Jaysons999 I've posted enough I should edit this section

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    One other thing is that with avets the more drag you use the handle becomes harder to turn. If you want to fish 50 I would at least go to the g2 version of the jx. To me I think that my jx is 40 lb max but I fish a tight drag.
     

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