Just dodged a bullet.

Fireball

Not so New
Jun 23, 2010
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Bud
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The bad connection resistance is all concentrated in one spot with combustibles around it (plastic plug) it does not take much resistance to melt and burn being so localized.
I think we are saying the same thing here. Here is what I posted earlier.

"When you get a loose connection it creates resistance of flow and heat will start to build up and melt things. At some point along the way they will catch fire or short out and trip the breaker."

As far as resistance a low resistance will draw more current.
10 ohm's / 1440 watts at 120 volts = 12 amps
28.8 ohm's / 500 watts at 120 volts = 4.16 amps
(120 volts / 38.8 ohm's = 3.09 amps 371.13 watts)

Any time you have heat build up you have power being used. Also if both heating points have the proper voltage going to them it would be a total load they would draw. So at the heating element you are drawing 500 watts/4.16 amps (with proper voltage) come down stream to the loose connection (10 ohm's) 1440 watts/12 amps for a combine load of 1940 watts/16.16 amps. The loose connection is still letting power through to the farthest point until it fails.

Then it comes down to what Howard said,

Or the TOTAL current exceeds the breaker capacity (heating element plus resistive fault)
 

Waterdog~

Just one more
Sep 1, 2009
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Hollywood
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Tiderunner
I think operator error have you ever seen him fish...…...LOL
 

Wild Bill

Remind me again why I own a boat
Aug 4, 2010
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Camano Island
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Steve
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Otter Craft
Glad we got that shit straight without 20 plus fucking pages:D.
 

MYNomad

Heading South
Dec 12, 2007
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Rick
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Yes
Rick not sure what you are trying to say in the red lettering above? But if resistance goes up (loose connections) current goes up
I think we are saying the same thing here.
I, too, understand and agree with what Wild Bill said (and find no inconsistency between my comments and his), but not sure whether I got it right or not, since your comment was 180 degree opposite of mine. I am referring to your comment that "if resistance goes up current goes UP". As I explained my understanding above, I believe it goes down. Did I screw this up? I infer that you are a professional in this area (admittedly, I am not), so if I got it wrong, I have a serious gap in my understanding of electricity that needs to be fixed before someone (probably me) gets electrocuted. (And if I got it right, feel free to PM me if you prefer).
 

Nineball

That's a keeper!
Jul 16, 2012
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615
Port orchard
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Chris
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Parker 2310 "GUANO LOCO"
So let me get this straight

Bud and Steve have some magic formula whereby Eric believes that Chris caught some really nice salmon but Brian doesn't give a fuck so Rick (being from Mexico) put the fire out by pouring a corona on it after he was drunk due to an act of a salmon God named Laurence.
I will probably have to hang out with rick more

PS I still haven't quite figured out how Fred and Tony intend to blow the whistle on the whole operation
 
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South Sounder

Skipper
Jun 12, 2011
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South Sounder
So let me get this straight

Bud and Steve have some magic formula whereby Eric believes that Chris caught some really nice salmon but Brian doesn't give a fuck so Rick (being from Mexico) put the fire out by pouring a corona on it after he was drunk, I will probably have to hang out with rick

PS I still haven't quite figured out how Fred and Tony intend to blow the whistle on the whole operation
The smoker has been taken to a hidden cove but there’s some locals blowing the operation up and the owner who gave it to me is telling people it’s brand new with a few replacement parts obtained from the manufacturer.
 

wdlfbio

Once you go Cat, you never go back
Sep 15, 2008
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maple valley, wa
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laurence
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Vacancy
Funny chit kiddos
 

TonyG

I've posted enough I should edit this section
Nov 19, 2010
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Snohomish, WA
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Tony
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NR Seahawk OS 26'; 20' Alumaweld Super Vee Sled
The smoker has been taken to a hidden cove but there’s some locals blowing the operation up and the owner who gave it to me is telling people it’s brand new with a few replacement parts obtained from the manufacturer.
I was hoping to skip this part of the story. Shit.
 

Joelsk15

I've posted enough I should edit this section
Dec 9, 2011
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Port Orchard WA
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Joel
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The Thirsty
All this technical talk!! Here's the real question, what are you replacing it with? I want to replace my big chief, but haven't decided what to replace it with. The Masterbuilt's look okay for the price.
 

eldplanko

got the skunk off
Jun 18, 2012
507
386
Ballard
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My other boat is a piece of...
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Floater
All this technical talk!! Here's the real question, what are you replacing it with? I want to replace my big chief, but haven't decided what to replace it with. The Masterbuilt's look okay for the price.
Replace it with something that won’t catch on fire, like a smokehouse!
 
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Wild Bill

Remind me again why I own a boat
Aug 4, 2010
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Just to put this one to bed, I still stand by my original comments. With purely resistive loads like a heating element in a Big Chief, when you have a bad connection in the circuit causing higher resistance the total amp draw will not increase and may actually drop a bit. Your breakers will not keep the thing from going up in smoke. Now where you have a load that is inductive like motors, a bad connection causing voltage drop will definetely cause the circuit to draw higher amperage. I think this is what Bud is talking about as house loads are a mix of these different type of loads and a loose connection in a breaker panel can cause higher amp draw and hopefully pop a breaker. Also if you have parallel conductors in a circuit and a bad connection on one, the other conductors amperage will increase. I know this bores most of you to tears, but bottom line is keep those electric smokers away from combustibel materials.
 
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Fog Ducker!

Misanthropical member
May 9, 2010
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Dave
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4 and counting!
Fuck Electricity, I'm gonna break out my Kerosene Radio and listen to some tunes!

Ducker!