Jammed Reel Seat - Phenix 809XHJ

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  1. 5-20

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    Happy new year to y’all!!!

    Any idea about what I can do about this? Got a Tranx 500 stuck on my Phenix 809XHJ.

    It’s been stuck for more than a month and a half now. Couldn’t do anything about it during the hot November BFT bite and thankfully I never had any issues with the reel that would have forced me to take it off the rod! :)

    I’ve asked a few people and they’ve all said they didn’t really have a good idea to suggest to try that would free the reel seat without possibly damaging the rod.

    Would like to send in the Tranx for servicing soon. Hoping you guys can give me a couple of good ideas to try. Thanks!

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    I would unscrew the nut a bit and then with a flatblade screwdriver tip and a light hammer try to tap lightly on the reel seat pushing it toward the butt of the rod. Maybe some lube a few hours prior with some WD40. Alternate sides with the tapping and unscrew the nut a bit if there appears to be any movement to keep the pressure on.
     
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    Rubber strap wrench if is is the locking nut.
    If the reel foot is stuck in the hood, grab the face of the reel and slam the butt straight down hard on the floor. Might take a few times, but don’t touch the rod when you do it.

    Just make sure the rod can land somewhere without damaging guides.
     
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    what ever u do not use a hammer use a mallet
     
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    There’s absolutely zero free movement in the nut at all.

    The first time I tried to unscrew the reel seat I could only twist it tighter. I tried doing that since sometimes if you can kinda rock it back and forth, that can help free it. But in this case, I guess not.

    Right now, it’s completely locked in place. Zero free movement st all.
     
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    spray some wd 40 on it lightly tap it with a mallet for 10 min when u hit it make sure you are hitting in the right direction counter clock wise or if u know some 1 with mad grip strength
     
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    The rubber strap wrench is the way to go. I’d first pour hot water on the threads to see if you can get any of the salt out.
     
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    If it's the locking nut that's stuck a rubber strap wrench will lossen it without breaking anything. Channel locks or vice grips but use something to cushion the jaws. It's just slipped off the threads and stuck, It'll move it you get some leverage
     
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    Rubber strap wrench, works every time. The worst are the stupid coated ones Phenix uses on the M1 Inshores that looks like faux carbon fiber cloth, they jam up every time.
     
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    I use pliers with plastic jaws to loosen stuck reel seats.

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    Thanks everyone. Appreciate all of the suggestions! The rubber strap wrench seems to be the way to go. I’ll try that.
     
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    I would soak a rag with liquid wrench, and wrap it around it and let it soak in for a few days first.
     
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    First I would apply some Kroll penatrating oil to the seat and let it sit overnight. Kroll works wonders, but it really smells bad. Good luck
     
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    Two strap wrenches one, on the nut and one on the threads. If you throw only a strap wrench on the nut and twist hard with your hand on the grip it will likely work, but there is a small chance if it’s stuck very hard that you might break the epoxy binding the seat to the blank. Twisting only on the seat will prevent you from doing that.
     
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    If you don’t have a strap wrench, wrap some tape around the nut to protect it and loosen it with some channel locks.
     
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    Pour boiling hot water on it and immediately wrap the rubber mesh non-skid material thats around everywhere (99cent store) around it and turn by hand. Works well on stuck jar lids,etc.
     
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    Even easier, just hold onto the reel that's stuck on the seat, but that is a good point, I've broken a factory Phenix seat out before, it doesnt take too much effort. And I wouldn't be pouring boiling hot water on it for the same reason; thermal expansion mismatch. The whole things not that complicated, just a strap wrench and some muscle, it's not an aluminum seat, it's just a plastic Fuji.
     
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    Warm water is the best solvent to dissolve salt. Flush the nut really well with warm water in the event salt build up is part of the problem. Then lube it really well with a silicone based lubricant which are best for plastics. Then use a strap wrench on the nut and some type of grip on on the seat. Holding the reel puts a twisting load on the reel seat. Good luck!
     
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    Yep. I have a 711ML. Fantastic rod for surf and inshore fishing. But the reel seat started to have this funky issue about 4-5 months later. I could never seat the reel properly. Kind of felt like the nut had become slightly misaligned on the threads and I was worried the reel would pop out during a good fight one of those days. But then later on it finally started snugging up better.

    On the flip side, I closed my tundra’s door on the rod one time and it didn’t break!!! :) Caught a 4’ smoothhound shark on it a couple of weeks later so the blank seems to be alright. :)
     
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    Haven’t tried to unlock the reel seat yet. Took the SUP out to LJ yesterday. Didn’t catch any fish but tried to help release a 60-70 lb. BSB that a nearby boat caught. Spent about 20-30 mins on it and could never get it to right itself and go back down. That was kinda sad. The guy must have brought it up a little too fast. It’s air bladder was completely swollen out of its throat. I tried pushing it back into its stomach. I actually had my arm into its stomach up to my elbow. That didn’t really help. Didn’t know what else to do except hold onto it’s mouth and hope that it would eventually swim off under its own strength. It kept on flipping back upside down every time I let go of the fish. Oh well. I tried my best. :(
     

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