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G-Spot

Captain
Mar 14, 2008
4,425
1,536
113
Salem/OR/USA
Name
John
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53’ Hatteras STEEL N TIME
First, let me apologize for not jumping in here and the delay in getting participants their winnings that are owed to them.

-I won't answer number I don't have saved in my phone. If there is no voicemail, it's not important and I won't return the call.

-Here is your short answer. The same one everyone was told at the event. Once fish are cleaned and checked to ensure everything and every fish is legit, payout will happen. That's not when one team is done that one team gets paid. For those that have thrown around the idea the MO/WTC doesn't have the funds, well I can tell you that is far from true. I talked with Ryan this evening, sounds like fish should be done by the end of the week. I know we were told November. but with the issues we had with Nort West Harvest and being lied to by them for years, this is where are.

-We are working on a process where winners can be paid out Sunday after the event. I hope this happens so people who spent their time and money on the event can get any winnings coming to them.

-the majority of the winners have been very understanding of the process for this. I'm sorry if you're not, we hope this won't be a issue again.

If you want to reach out, you have my number call me, text me, hit my up on Facebook messenger or hell even Instagram.

You are being a good politician with a BS answer.....If those fish are still laying around that’s retarded! A certified scale and thermometer.... done! The answer is retarded, almost an effort to shame people for saying something.... Majority are very understanding Sorry if your not... w

If you are sitting on their money quit dicking around and pay them.... Financial problems would be a better excuse than being so unorganized and unprofessional.

It’s great that Nineball talked to you and now everyone can do a circle and sing Kumbya, but that doesn’t really show a real effort.
 

Glad Wrap

I've posted enough I should edit this section
Jul 21, 2009
3,548
577
113
Tacoma, WA
Name
Scott
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boat whore
When you have a dog in the fight, come talk. Until then..... just like most BD threads you get on and pump your BS and pound your keyboard.
As stated before, I am not a board member. So I am passing info. Shaming people isn't what was done. Sorry you got your keyboard feelings hurt over something you have nothing to do with.

I'll mail you your social justice warrior badge.
 

DaKanati

Captain
Mar 17, 2009
1,478
675
113
belfair,washington
Name
Josh
Boat
272 Sailfish "ManCave"
Wow....super lame. I know it's easy to be a critic but I seriously can't think of any reason these fish should have been sitting in a freezer somewhere for more than a few weeks. I would think these fish are wasted at this point.
 

G-Spot

Captain
Mar 14, 2008
4,425
1,536
113
Salem/OR/USA
Name
John
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53’ Hatteras STEEL N TIME
When you have a dog in the fight, come talk. Until then..... just like most BD threads you get on and pump your BS and pound your keyboard.
As stated before, I am not a board member. So I am passing info. Shaming people isn't what was done. Sorry you got your keyboard feelings hurt over something you have nothing to do with.

I'll mail you your social justice warrior badge.
🖕 Many things on this board have nothing to do with most people commenting. Nice deflection.... let’s focus and being a G-spot hater and not the issue at hand. I am a member of this board and a member of the fishing community and another member brought a concern about an organization in the fishing community forward..... get it? Now it has something to do with me.... And you mister intelligence.... knowing that G-spot’s haters might help you derail the thread rather than focus on the complete incompetence.

Board member or otherwise, you are a spokesperson and chose to make a Comment shaming people rather than jumping in and acknowledging total incompetence. As a spokesperson you could choose to condemn the behavior completely and actually stand for something and if they don’t like it you quit the stupid program for being lame.... Or you can parrot back bullshit knowing full well it’s wrong!

I’ll be waiting for my badge! 😆
 

Reel Hooker

“Ice Melter”
Sep 9, 2013
2,554
2,283
113
Carnation
www.metropolitandetail.com
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Benjamin
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Parker 2320 Long Cabin 'REEL HOOKER'
When you have a dog in the fight, come talk. Until then..... just like most BD threads you get on and pump your BS and pound your keyboard.
As stated before, I am not a board member. So I am passing info. Shaming people isn't what was done. Sorry you got your keyboard feelings hurt over something you have nothing to do with.

I'll mail you your social justice warrior badge.
Keep your social justice warrior badge, you’ll need it, since your just a social messenger and not a board memeber.

I have a dog in this fight, a winning dog, it’s been a patient dog, a quiet dog, a friendly dog, and now it’s an awake dog.....no more BS and...........

Actually Scott, you are totally wrong, and John is spot on. He may pump Bull shit in some threads,But he is right. You are being an excellent task manager and just making up anything that holds your end story a bit longer.

Patrick is also 100% correct, pay us. Species specific WIN, such a specific WIN we were able to keep the fish walk away with it and eat it!!!
I DO have a dog in this fight and it’s with all the BS I’m being fed since September. You chose to come into BD and defend WTC yourself, more BS, and well now your feelings are hurt and we are all very happy that you are unsettled and realize this has gone on to long, sheesh took long enough and a post in public. You may not be a board member but you felt enough to come on speak and defend something.

You say that the organization has the money! The board probably didn’t want us to know that, but thank you. Probably why you aren’t on the board. Now you have lost my patience. .Well let’s see it, the money. We know the organization has The money YOU told us, and now it also has the money of 21 new participants for this years 2020 WTC,

Will They Cashout is actually what WTC stands for.

How many of these 21 participants would have registered if they knew that the old debts have not been paid and they are in a Rob Peter to pay Paul scenario. Entering a tournament that hasn’t paid out the winnings of the last year seems very fishy to me....fishy get it.

You Scott have just attacked the two people in this thread that make the most valid points, and this why I’m upset now. Up until you said dog in the fight, and your interpreted tone to Patrick, I was patient and understanding, laughing and joking about it cause it was prize money. BUT now that is apparent that YOU Scott are just here to comfort and report back to your masters on the banter, and not do anything CAUSE you aren’t a board member I suggest you take the advice you gave Gspot and pack your feelings up and put your keyboard away until you have something constructive to tell those of us with missing winnings....like,here is your check!

Yeah that’s right WE team Icemelter would like to hold to FLAG high (the one Coleman is missing) as the most winningest team in the history of the Washington Tuna Classic

Travis, Ray, Mike, and Benjamin are all shouting with a dog in this fight PAY US, PAY US ALL, EVERY TEAM THAT PLACED DEMANDS PAYMENT
 

JohnnieB

SelFishAddiction
May 16, 2016
1,465
769
113
HereandThere
Name
JB
Boat
Unknown limits
Wow....super lame. I know it's easy to be a critic but I seriously can't think of any reason these fish should have been sitting in a freezer somewhere for more than a few weeks. I would think these fish are wasted at this point.
That’s a bullshit cover up, now they are tring to rob Peter to pay paul, the irs should be stepping in soon. And for those who condone this type of behavior. GFY
 

Barracuda1

Master of None
Jul 7, 2011
3,216
1,871
113
All over this bitch!
Name
Fred
Boat
Defiance 220 EX (BARRACUDA II)
Icemelter.. LOL :hali_ruahahaha:

You gotta be kidding me!! This is disgraceful! I've never heard of a fishing contest where winners don't get paid right away. This is why the entry fees are getting so high. With so much hype for the WTC on this board they better get to paying these guys. Make it right or GTFO.
 
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Glad Wrap

I've posted enough I should edit this section
Jul 21, 2009
3,548
577
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Tacoma, WA
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Scott
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boat whore
I attacked no one. Told one dude to piss up a rope, that's about it.
 
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Team Sency

Fish!! Or be Fished!!!
Jan 6, 2012
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2,469
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Black Diamond
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Chris
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JuiceBox2
Getting paid is fundamental to who we all are. We don’t have these toys if either our employers or customers don’t hold up to what was agreed to and in a timely fashion.

If individuals or an entity don’t show a dedication to making folks whole, then that tells you all you need to know about their character. You know full well they expect to get paid.

If Scott is just a talking head, he might best stop and just relay the message to the board folks that you just might want to pay these folks on the double.

I haven’t poked a Swede for a bit... he gave a like to Scott getting after G$....G is spot on and apparently if buy anything from Miles he is cool if take your sweet ass time paying him. Swedefargo is a killer lending institution!
 
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South Sounder

Skipper
Jun 12, 2011
1,835
1,715
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Chris
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South Sounder
I have a great idea. Next year everyone takes their “entry fees” and give it to Goat. He will have Boeing Match it and give it to charity. Exactly what this fun event was made for and we know it will be followed through on. Then we all support the local business and have a party. When you buy a meal buy “two.” You receive one, and the second paid meal the business turns the funds over to the food bank for that meal and they can purchase what they need for the community.

Or if that’s too complicated, the WTC can just pay the dudes who won money, and move on. I for one will be out this year but will still do everything I can to take as many vets out as possible this year.
 

Swede

Yachtless
May 2, 2008
4,125
4,654
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Pacific Northwest
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Swede
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Kristen Lee
I haven’t poked a Swede for a bit... he gave a like to Scott getting after G$....G is spot on and apparently if buy anything from Miles he is cool if take your sweet ass time paying him. Swedefargo is a killer lending institution!

Here we go!!
I did like it. Funny shit.
As for Scott, 1. He’s being honest. 2. He’s not the one who owes the money. 3. At least he is conveying the concerns of the group. 4. I believe this will lead to a quicker solution to rectify this flawed process of relying on NW Harvest to verify fish.

Carry on...
 

dragonballs

I'm off probation
Mar 28, 2008
8,851
7,051
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Arlington WA
Name
Vance
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40' ocean sport fisher
holy shit show batman.. I was hoping things were going to get fixed. money corrupts everything..
 
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FVSerenity

Tuna Boss
Feb 27, 2012
2,776
1,735
113
The Salt
Name
Rod
Boat
22' Duckworth FVSerenity, 2502 Trophy FVHappyHours
WTF? Bizarre, verify fish? Huh? Still haven’t been paid? Huh? It seems like that should have happened when they announced the winners, anything else is bullshitI’m so confused....

well, I didn’t enter the tournament but I did take some of the vets out fishing, I had a great time:)

another point bullshit is that they held back the great bait for the tournament, I know they did because I fished the days before, during and after!

plus the people who run it should know that this is going to end badly if you don’t get the winners paid immediately in this close knit community how do they expect to have another tournament?
 

Roll the Bones

Dr. Fong
Jul 15, 2008
2,703
1,736
113
Operating Room
Name
Dr. Fong
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Hewescraft 250 Alaskan
All I can say is wow? I'll bet if I turn my wife loose on em you will get a check the next day. Those of you who know her would put money on it!!!!
I hate to say it but of course I will anyway, this is why my crew and I have sat the last couple of them out. The jury will stay out one more year, by then it might be too late for all of these tournaments. I heard OTC is going the way of the Dodo also.
 

wdlfbio

Once you go Cat, you never go back
Sep 15, 2008
8,698
8,023
113
maple valley, wa
Name
laurence
Boat
Vacancy
Wow. This is shameful. There is ZERO valid reason for these guys not being paid within weeks. We donated all our fish. Those had damn well been canned within weeks and not just stuck in a freezer. All the attaboys with Merinos stepping up to can our fish... Sounds like a dog and pony show and all of us being misled.

I had no idea about any of this. Very disappointing.
 

Captain Decent

The Bert makes ‘em Squirt
Nov 2, 2017
1,346
1,836
113
38
Covington, wa
Name
Ryan
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The Bert Makes ’em Squirt
well I won’t be attending this event this year.

for the managers, whoever they are, to not address this and hide behind the “well we told you how it worked At the dinner” is really disappointing. Scott, who runs this and why aren’t they explaining the situation?

considering the smear campaign that preceded the hostile takeover from the original managers this looks really suspect.
 

dragonballs

I'm off probation
Mar 28, 2008
8,851
7,051
113
Arlington WA
Name
Vance
Boat
40' ocean sport fisher
if it looks like a duck its a duck
 
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TwoTapPat

Crank the handle Randle
May 22, 2013
2,433
2,391
113
some where on the water
Name
Pat
Boat
High on the Goat
All I can say is wow? I'll bet if I turn my wife loose on em you will get a check the next day. Those of you who know her would put money on it!!!!
I hate to say it but of course I will anyway, this is why my crew and I have sat the last couple of them out. The jury will stay out one more year, by then it might be too late for all of these tournaments. I heard OTC is going the way of the Dodo also.
We all know she doesn't take checks. She would be collecting crisp green backs.
 
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oldschool 1

Night Watchman .
Jun 13, 2011
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Andy
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Oldschool 2
What a shame, I wonder how you could legally donate the fish to a cannery/ buyer and then just pick a charity to give the check to.
You pricks have good intentions but every year the drama gets deeper. Less people sign up every year. What a fucking shame.
 

Elkfins

Ungrateful Prick
Aug 8, 2008
4,259
3,164
113
Tacoma, WA
Name
Steve
Boat
"Cleanup Required" '99 Grady White 232 Gulfstream
Wow. very interesting. A few years ago when we made the decision to stop entering, it was with the idea that we'd watch to see if there were improvements and changes to make things go smoother/better and if feedback was positive, we'd consider coming back. Considering the new management and the promises they made when they took over, we were hopeful. I was considering getting back in this coming year (either with Charlie or a team of my own) but that's not gonna happen now. In fact, there's a very high chance I'm done with WTC for good.
If I want to donate, I'll write a check directly to my charity of choice.
 

goatram

Notable Member Gate Keeper to the Great Northwest
Apr 3, 2008
10,511
6,333
113
Stanwood, WA
Name
grrrrrrrr
Boat
33' RBW MISS ELIZA
Sometimes things take time. A couple of you have no skin in this game. Vance, Two Tap Pat, Jon aka G Spot, and Capt. Decent aka Ryan are some of you that need to step away. Rules are the rules. Fish needs to be processed. The fish processor aka Merino's had a busy season last year. They are now processing the fish. Capt Reel Hooker was told that back a month ago, Christmas day. The fish processed will be given to the Westport Food Bank as well as shared with Gray's Harbor County Food Banks. That is one of the things that the Tournament Supports. You that accuse the Board of Theft need to STFU!

Mark Coleman, I understand your fustration but again rules are rules. Disqualification hurts. Not joining the Donnybrook shows your leadership and stature.

Once the fish are processed the funds will be released. Ryan has been talking to to those that money is owed too. They were made aware of the underlying issues. Bennie I am thou with you if you continue this Public Lynching of the WTC. Come clean. The rest of you need to cool the rhetoric. Its better to be owed than told you get nothing.
 

Reel Hooker

“Ice Melter”
Sep 9, 2013
2,554
2,283
113
Carnation
www.metropolitandetail.com
Name
Benjamin
Boat
Parker 2320 Long Cabin 'REEL HOOKER'
Sometimes things take time. A couple of you have no skin in this game. Vance, Two Tap Pat, Jon aka G Spot, and Capt. Decent aka Ryan are some of you that need to step away. Rules are the rules. Fish needs to be processed. The fish processor aka Merino's had a busy season last year. They are now processing the fish. Capt Reel Hooker was told that back a month ago, Christmas day. The fish processed will be given to the Westport Food Bank as well as shared with Gray's Harbor County Food Banks. That is one of the things that the Tournament Supports. You that accuse the Board of Theft need to STFU!

Mark Coleman, I understand your fustration but again rules are rules. Disqualification hurts. Not joining the Donnybrook shows your leadership and stature.

Once the fish are processed the funds will be released. Ryan has been talking to to those that money is owed too. They were made aware of the underlying issues. Bennie I am thou with you if you continue this Public Lynching of the WTC. Come clean. The rest of you need to cool the rhetoric. Its better to be owed than told you get nothing.
interesting timing of your post, I just gave you a shout of love for your help. I still love you goat, we all do
 

tacklejacked

Capt./ Ho if I get to drive
Jun 2, 2009
2,617
2,486
113
Seabeck
Name
Greg
Boat
22 Hewescraft Searunner ET HT
Bs goat..sorry I love ya but disagree on this one...I love me some wounded warriors and love to take them fishing, my dime my time..but the WTC is way off on this one...

The WTC rules say winner's will be paid within 5-7 days...I'm sorry but having tuna sit on ice for 6 months is not reasonable to verify who the winner is...I'll buy a certified scale if needed for this year if that's what it takes...if anyone fish's the tourney....

And all this shouldn't be an issue since it was a side pot bet anyway...paid in full that night the way I see it... otherwise someone's making money off money... Mission Outdoors is a 501 non profit right..

Rant over...carry on.
 

goatram

Notable Member Gate Keeper to the Great Northwest
Apr 3, 2008
10,511
6,333
113
Stanwood, WA
Name
grrrrrrrr
Boat
33' RBW MISS ELIZA

Prize payouts will be made via certified mail after all fish have passed inspection by our processor 5-7 days after the event.


All winners will be required to fill out IRS Form W-9, request for taxpayer ID, if your prize exceeds a value of $600. You will be required to provide a photo ID at the time of turning in the W-9 to verify said information. A W-9 for a business can be used as well as long as a copy of the business license is provided at the same time the W-9 is turned over to the WTC.


One additional drawing ticket will be provided for each fish turned in. Fish drawing ticket vouchers will be distributed at the fish drop off area on Float 6 after said fish are counted and turned over to WTC volunteers. You can exchange this voucher for extra fish tickets at the banquet.


The drawing will be held at the awards banquet and prizes will be given away by drawn tickets. You must be present to win.

Issues need to be taken into account. Sometimes those issues are outside of the Control of the Official Tournament's control. Benjamin did you talk to Ryan around Christmas time? If so was it explained to you of the Why? I talked to Ryan and Mike Jennings today. Mike Caught the Fish and He said he tried to cool your Jets as well. Stand Down and enjoy your day!
 
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