Internet on LR Boat?

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Wish I Was Fishing!
Sep 9, 2004
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Hi Guys,

We just came back from the Indy 16 dayer and the Internet was unusable to browse websites for sure. Email was barely usable.

I heard from anglers from the last fall that most of the boats moved to a new provider and that things are not going well.

Last year, the Internet was slow but you could bring up a web page. This year, forget about it.

Harddrive
 
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harddrive

Wish I Was Fishing!
Sep 9, 2004
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The Internet was pretty decent last year, usable. This year the Internet sucked big time.

Fishing was so so. But some new things for people to try. Will write that up later.
 
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harddrive

Wish I Was Fishing!
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Nah. It wasn't like that. The owner of the boat was driving and he said that the system was being overwhelmed.

He did say not to post too much info as the seiners read and then will come and wrap things.

I think they don't want any "dumb" positing issues while fishing.
 
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SlideRight

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Jul 4, 2008
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Hi Guys,

We just came back from the Indy 16 dayer and the Internet was unusable to browse websites for sure. Email was barely usable.

I heard from anglers from the last fall that most of the boats moved to a new provider and that things are not going well.

Last year, the Internet was slow but you could bring up a web page. This year, forget about it.

Harddrive

Last Nov. on the Indy it was spotty much of the time, but after a few days it became instructive that a glance around the salon to see how many devices were busy or just sitting idle (but connected) could correlate to the chances of connecting, or otherwise. Also noted: signal strength would increase nicely if positioned in the salon & leaning on the aft/stbd inside wall (or alternatively taking a seat in the same area) as opposed to standing in the aft passageway adjacent to my upper STRM (i.e. just 6' away). Then there was the various but normally very consistent times (usually early/mid evening) when the salon signal seemed switched off entirely (for boat communications was the rumor). Regardless, the CFO very much appreciates the chance to stay so easily in touch, as do I. So it's hats off for the wifi capable LR boats!
:cheers:
 
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sierraed

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Oct 10, 2011
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I'm no expert but the crew often limits bandwidth on the router for critical needs like weather, charting, and other communications.
 
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harddrive

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Yup. They definitely turned off the WIFI most of the time and had only theirs up. I get it that weather, charting and talking to other captains are important.

I'm no expert but the crew often limits bandwidth on the router for critical needs like weather, charting, and other communications.
 
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Mike Barrera

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Usually there are 2 bands on the boat - bridge and "free". You get access to the "free". When then boat is using heavy bandwidth. general wifi is off. SOME boat go over boat internet etiquette. turn you wifi off when not using it. no heavy websites (that's you porn guy). use apps like voxer and google hangouts that allow you to "text" via web.
 
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wahoodad

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Apr 27, 2003
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Personally, I don't think it's anything to do with the boat's wifi system. The problem is us. Too many people, with too many devices, and not turning them off. Each angler has a laptop, and a smart phone.
My advice, pick your times to go online, otherwise put the phone in airplane mode, and turn the wifi off on the laptop.
If we all did as they say to do, it would work. Sadly, it doesn't because everyone feels the need to stay hooked into the world 24/7.
 
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DannyNoonan

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My 8-day trip on the Royal Star last year I brought my work laptop to see if I could obtain a decent connection - figured if I could accomplish a little work remotely I could offset some of the travel days on the longer trips in the winter. I only get so many "vacation days" each year...

Unfortunately, the process of getting a link established through the company firewall - that generally takes 5-10 seconds at home through a hi speed cable connection - took nearly 10 minutes on the boat! And this was fairly early in the morning when most folks were still down below sleeping. Attempting to retrieve/push MS Office files of any size (Project, Word, PowerPoint) back and forth was virtually impossible, let alone interacting with one on the shared server. I pretty much gave up after a half hour of accomplishing nothing more than retrieving emails...

Not the boats fault - they're too far away to leverage land-based cell coverage. I believe it's all via sat link. Current systems are $$ and very bandwidth limited relative to stuff in your home/office. Sat system capabilities continue to improve (I know - I work on a few of them), but they won't keep pace with the explosive growth in bandwidth needs...

Guys using their iPhones for basic texting and such were doing ok. More "traditional" uses like what I was attempting just don't seem feasible. YMMV, however...
 
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Fishybuzz

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Hi Guys,

We just came back from the Indy 16 dayer and the Internet was unusable to browse websites for sure. Email was barely usable.

I heard from anglers from the last fall that most of the boats moved to a new provider and that things are not going well.

Last year, the Internet was slow but you could bring up a web page. This year, forget about it.

Harddrive


Best news I have heard in a long time… no wi fi….lol

OK start throwing rocks.
 
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Fishybuzz

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Yup. They definitely turned off the WIFI most of the time and had only theirs up. I get it that weather, charting and talking to other captains are important.


No really??? more important than calling your honey poo every morning and afternoon to tell her you are ok????….too funny, just jacking with you Min.
 
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Yolo

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May 30, 2006
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Just like Dave said, too many devices..35 phones, some tablets, laptops. I go to fish and hang with some friends and now at dinner everyone is sitting looking at their phones. I am glad to see they cut it. I presume it is an unplanned expense and got really too pricey. Have to start charging extra fee if you want it to accommodate that cost.

Otherwise, I really don't need to know that the cat took a crap on the floor when I am out on a boat relaxing. It was better when you went up to the Capt Office upstairs, paid $2 and called home to say all is OK. You were then released to your offshore world. Those were the good ole days...LOL
 
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Nah. I too have limited vacation days, and if I can do some work. My boss will let me have a few freebie days.

They need to tell everyone the edictate on using the WIFI on the boat. Every computer, every iPad, every phone device is constantly using bandwidth without you even doing anything. Looking for updates for apps that you don't even use. Constantly looking for new patches and definition. Sending information etc etc etc. It's constantly connected.

I told Mark Pisan that I'll write up a document on how to turn off all those vampire things on most devices and share with him and I'll post it on BD too. Like I said, all devices uses bandwidth even when you don't know it.

No really??? more important than calling your honey poo every morning and afternoon to tell her you are ok????….too funny, just jacking with you Min.
 
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wahoodad

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No really??? more important than calling your honey poo every morning and afternoon to tell her you are ok????….too funny, just jacking with you Min.
Whatever. It's the hoop I gotta jump through to get the hall pass.

She loves me, what can I say :D
I feel fortunate I get to go, and the Sat phone bills can get pricey. The internet is a great way for me to stay in touch.
 
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Fishybuzz

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Whatever. It's the hoop I gotta jump through to get the hall pass.

She loves me, what can I say :D
I feel fortunate I get to go, and the Sat phone bills can get pricey. The internet is a great way for me to stay in touch.


My wife loves me too, been married 36 years but she doesn't require me to call her to tell her I love her….. because she knows I do. But if that's what it takes I'm happy it's there for you.
 
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jiggyn

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Jan 26, 2008
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The internet on the boat should not be a factor on any boat when it concerns the fisherman. Isnt this why we work hard and pay good money to have an experienced and knowledgeable captain and fine tuned crew to get us to the fishing grounds. to let them do their thing so we can have fun at the rail? Why are you going to check out where other boats are, what their counts are, worried about missing out?
If there is internet on a vessel is should be more of a bonus than an incentive.
As for me give me a place to crash, eat, drink, and FISH ON!!!

My dos pesos
 
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wahoodad

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Apr 27, 2003
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The internet on the boat should not be a factor on any boat when it concerns the fisherman. Isnt this why we work hard and pay good money to have an experienced and knowledgeable captain and fine tuned crew to get us to the fishing grounds. to let them do their thing so we can have fun at the rail? Why are you going to check out where other boats are, what their counts are, worried about missing out?
If there is internet on a vessel is should be more of a bonus than an incentive.
As for me give me a place to crash, eat, drink, and FISH ON!!!

My dos pesos
Jerr, I could care less what the other boats are doing. I could care less if we are catching fish or not.
My trips now revolve around the weather(no control there), the food, and especially the people.
I am sooooo looking forward to our upcoming Okuma Excel 15 day trip, and it's all about the people who are going. Many thanks to Al Scow the Fisherman's Pal for setting up such a great cast of characters for our trip.
I hope to carry the torch a while on this trip.
 
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Aggro

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Mar 4, 2005
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My 8-day trip on the Royal Star last year I brought my work laptop to see if I could obtain a decent connection - figured if I could accomplish a little work remotely I could offset some of the travel days on the longer trips in the winter. I only get so many "vacation days" each year...

Unfortunately, the process of getting a link established through the company firewall - that generally takes 5-10 seconds at home through a hi speed cable connection - took nearly 10 minutes on the boat! And this was fairly early in the morning when most folks were still down below sleeping. Attempting to retrieve/push MS Office files of any size (Project, Word, PowerPoint) back and forth was virtually impossible, let alone interacting with one on the shared server. I pretty much gave up after a half hour of accomplishing nothing more than retrieving emails...

Not the boats fault - they're too far away to leverage land-based cell coverage. I believe it's all via sat link. Current systems are $$ and very bandwidth limited relative to stuff in your home/office. Sat system capabilities continue to improve (I know - I work on a few of them), but they won't keep pace with the explosive growth in bandwidth needs...

Guys using their iPhones for basic texting and such were doing ok. More "traditional" uses like what I was attempting just don't seem feasible. YMMV, however...
What was the speed on your phone? When I use mine as a modem it can push a few mb through but it's still slow. Of course you a limited to the range of coastline of about 4-5 miles.
 
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