INNOVATE SPJ - Designed for Head Boats

Big.B

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Dec 13, 2019
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Brandon
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Mako
Got this nice golden tile today in 700ft. My first tile and golden! Thank Benny and everyone for all your assistance. Love the new Innovate
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Big.B

Newbie
Dec 13, 2019
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5
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Miami Fl
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Brandon
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Mako
2 questions.

1. Should I be using swivel and what do you recommend if so? I always thought you just tied onto the top solid ring

2. How do you know which end of a jig to tie your leader onto? I assume jigs with eyes you tie onto the eye side, but do you normally tie onto the more slender side or does it even matter?
 

rexor_rn

Mangingisda
Sep 22, 2016
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HOLLYWOOD
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Mananagat
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"CATTLE BOAT"
If fought properly off the reel, I would say up to 100. Keep in mind that slow pitch rods, even those with significant backbone, are not designed to be the primary tool to fight the fish - the reel is

Temple Reef will have a booth at the Fred Hall show this year.
Good to know...you have deals on this rod at the booth?
 

benwah22

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Aug 16, 2016
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Benny Ortiz
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Whatever one I'm on.
2 questions.

1. Should I be using swivel and what do you recommend if so? I always thought you just tied onto the top solid ring

2. How do you know which end of a jig to tie your leader onto? I assume jigs with eyes you tie onto the eye side, but do you normally tie onto the more slender side or does it even matter?
First, congrats on the tile! Glad the rod worked out for you.

Using a swivel is up to you. The choices are either leader to solid ring, or leader to ball bearing swivel. I use a swivel (#5 Spro). I feel that when you have a decent fish on, that is spinning on the way up, you get less line twist. If you're going with a solid ring, I like the Owner 6.5 size.

I generally tie to the side with the eye on it. Many slow jigs are somewhat center weighted, so it can be tough sometimes as both sides look about the same. Usually there's some subtle difference in the weighting though.
 

jowo

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Jul 9, 2004
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Sold
Hey Brent, are the guides on the innovate heavier than the levitates? I had them been it on my early generation levitate and had to have them replaced. The pics a few pages back look like they're heavier.
 

benwah22

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Whatever one I'm on.
Yes, the Innovate uses Fuji LDB super duty guides. Still on the small side but much stronger than the micro guides on previous versions on the Levitate.

The Levitate Ti also had the guide train changed to use stronger and slightly larger Fuji guides for 2020.
 

jowo

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Yes, the Innovate uses Fuji LDB super duty guides. Still on the small side but much stronger than the micro guides on previous versions on the Levitate.

The Levitate Ti also had the guide train changed to use stronger and slightly larger Fuji guides for 2020.
Thanks, Benny! Auto correct changed your name in the last post, sorry!
 
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rexor_rn

Mangingisda
Sep 22, 2016
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Mananagat
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"CATTLE BOAT"
Grabbed both rods when they came out and have only gotten them into a few medium sized yellowtail (westcoast). I've mostly fished the 8'0" MH with an Ocea 2000NRHG, Valiant 300 and 500N2. Unlike Benny, I really like the lower gear once in the "grind" mode from down deep. :-)

I'm really looking forward to testing the 7'8" H on some bigger Yellows at Colonet and then the bluefin when they're back up this way. Will likely run Penn Torque 25NLD2 (w Tiburon handle) or even the 40NLD2 if jigging for those 60-120lbers.

Here's one on the 6'8" Levitate for reference to what I'm typically targeting out here.
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Nice Yellow...just curious if you have any updates on using it at Punta Colonet lately? TIA.
 

davidsk

Salty
Jun 11, 2014
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David
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myboat
Anyone have advice on how to purchase an INN-80MH?
I live in LA and haven't been able to find a local dealer.
 

benwah22

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Benny Ortiz
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Whatever one I'm on.
We will be at Fred Hall. If you'd like, you can PM me directly and I will be happy to help facilitate. The new shipment of Innovates are on their way to the States now and they are warehoused in CA. We are working to find local dealers for the rods on the West Coast.
 
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tugasangler

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James
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Yankee Capts
It’s been said here many times to way to get the rod is through BENNY .

I’m currently considering trading mine for a h model if anyone in south Florida may be interested . New for new . Mine has only been on one trip .