INNOVATE SPJ - Designed for Head Boats

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Temple Reef INNOVATE is a signature series by SPJ guru Benny Ortiz, specially designed for use on local head boats.

INN-80MH - 8’0” - 100-400g | Med Hvy | Mod Slow MSRP $349
INN-78H - 7’8” - 250-650g | Heavy | Mod Slow MSRP $349

Featuring:
Signature Iridescent Finish
1/3 (Down Joint):
INN-80MH - 985mm + 1520mm (Pack Length)
INN-78H - 985mm + 1460mm (Pack Length)
Fuji KW + LBD Alconite Guides
Fuji T-DPS 22 w/ KDPS 22 Down Locking Reelseat
Guides:
Fuji KWAG (Double Footed) size 10
Fuji KWAG (Double Footed) size 8
Fuji KWAG (Double Footed) size 7
Fuji KTAG (Single Foot) Size 7
Fuji LBDAG Size 6 x 5
Top - MNAT 6 (Tip Dia. 2.4mm)

"Big fish. Big boats. Big power. Presenting the Innovate, a new concept for jigging. Featuring a proprietary two-piece 70/30 joint design, the Innovate does what was previously impossible - it combines unrivaled action, incredible backbone, and added length for long fall presentation as well as for maneuverability on today's larger long-range boats. All Innovate rods come equipped with a unique combination of flagship Fuji KW and LBD guides, allowing for the use of larger diameter leader while maintaining tangle free operation. At a mere 6oz (180g), it's light enough to fish all day, but tough enough to stop nearly anything that swims. Whatever you're targeting, and wherever you're targeting it, the Innovate series has it covered." BENNY ORTIZ

* Rods used in photos are testing prototypes without cosmetics
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Here's a couple of pics from a recent trip where I got to work out the production version of the 8'0 Innovate MH on a large headboat during a multi day trip. I was primarily using jigs in the 200g to 300g range.

In my opinion, this rod changes the game for slow pitch jig fishing from larger boats, and performed exactly as designed. Excellent stopping power and fantastic action; light-weight (rod/reel set up weighed 21oz total) so you could fish it all day; the line stayed away from the boat, even when the fish ran under the keel; and, it casted up-current super well.

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Where can one purchase this rod online or in SoCal?
 

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Got any pics of the rod doubled over to check out the bend and action? Or video of the action with different weight jigs?
Here you go sir, the bend in the rod pictured here is with the amberjack pictured below, so you have an idea of the size of the fish putting on this bend.

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Wow. That’s a helluva big gram window on these rods. I’m no Benny O, but have been an iron guy for several years. If there’s one thing I’ve learned about a sought after jig stick, it’s the ability to fish a wide range of weights effectively on one rod.
These could have some very special potential.
My curiosity is peaked!
 

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Wow. That’s a helluva big gram window on these rods. I’m no Benny O, but have been an iron guy for several years. If there’s one thing I’ve learned about a sought after jig stick, it’s the ability to fish a wide range of weights effectively on one rod.
These could have some very special potential.
My curiosity is peaked!
So, the reason why there's such a big range is due to the design. The tip section is extremely sensitive and has excellent recoil, on par with the top level slow pitch rods. The butt section is much more rigid, which can power and load up the rod, allowing the tip to recoil. It allows for a very broad range of jigs in various depths. I've fished the MH with 120g jigs in 80ft, up to 400g in 550ft of water.

Hope that interest is peaked more...
 

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Hey guys,

Just got my rod ! I contacted Benny last Thurs and he made the transaction very easy and kept me appraised of my order status the whole time. Got the rod yesterday so basically 3 business days out to the west coast. Rod was packed securely in a big tube with plenty of bubble wrap.
I ordered the Temple Reef "Innovate" INV-80-MH. I plan on using it for 180g-300g jigs in up to 400' of water.
Rod came in a very nice padded case.
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I also have a Black Hole "Cape Cod Special" B-662HMF that I used for size comparisons.
The butt sections are similar sized.
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The innovate is a longer rod so the thicker section extends farther up making it seem like a thicker rod.
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However if you even up the joint sections, you can see that the tip sections are similarly sized.
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Fuji guides all the way up.
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Double foot transitioning to single foot towards the tip.
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Can't wait to get a weather window out here so I can take it for a spin! The rod is very light and feels good in the hand. (I have it paired with an Accurate 500N that I picked up for Cyber Mon).
Anyway if you are thinking about trying one out, drop Benny a line and he can get you set up. Looking forward to an on the water report.

Thanks Benny !
 

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Thanks Benny !
My pleasure and thank you for the support! We worked really hard to get it right for its intended purpose - especially on the larger, long-range boats. Seeing new anglers fish the rod and hearing positive reports has been awesome! Can't wait to see pics of the results, and thank you for posting all these great pics so folks can see for themselves.
 
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Up to what size tuna do you think the MH model would be ideal for without bottoming out?

Looks like an interesting rod. Will any of the stores around SoCal have it in stock anytime soon or will it be at Fred Hall this spring?
 

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Up to what size tuna do you think the MH model would be ideal for without bottoming out?

Looks like an interesting rod. Will any of the stores around SoCal have it in stock anytime soon or will it be at Fred Hall this spring?
If fought properly off the reel, I would say up to 100. Keep in mind that slow pitch rods, even those with significant backbone, are not designed to be the primary tool to fight the fish - the reel is

Temple Reef will have a booth at the Fred Hall show this year.
 

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those blanks could benefit a lot from a spiral wrap config,
Respectfully disagree. I specifically chose a conventional guide train on these rods for a few reasons. First, the purpose of having a spiral wrapped rod is to (1) level out the rod when fighting a bigger fish when spiral wrapped to the opposite side of the reeling hand, (2) to reduce/eliminate the guides getting fouled up with slack line, and (3) to keep the line off the blank (which I think is the least important reason).

One of the issues with the first point is that there are both lefty and righty anglers. Manufacturing a rod for only righties, or only lefties, will make the rod less appealing to the opposite hand. I wanted something where all people could use equally, and be confident in.

In order to combat the 2nd point/issue, the single foot guides lay down, as you can see in the pictures. This allows the line to slide off, and not foul as it would on a standard conventional guide train. They are also slightly larger, and will accommodate larger diameter leader.

Lastly, and this was my primary reason for using a conventional guide train, is functionality on a large boat. Ever had a fish run under the boat and your rod is getting pinned along the hull? Not so fun when you have a spiral wrapped rod, which causes the guides to potentially get torched from the pressure, or have the line rub the boat, which is equally catastrophic. By using a conventional guide train, it keeps your guides in one piece, and your line intact, even if you are in a worst-case situation where a large fish has run you under the boat.
 

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If fought properly off the reel, I would say up to 100. Keep in mind that slow pitch rods, even those with significant backbone, are not designed to be the primary tool to fight the fish - the reel is

Temple Reef will have a booth at the Fred Hall show this year.
Are you going to be there? I'll be sure to stop by and check them out!
 

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Hey guys,

Just got my rod ! I contacted Benny last Thurs and he made the transaction very easy and kept me appraised of my order status the whole time. Got the rod yesterday so basically 3 business days out to the west coast. Rod was packed securely in a big tube with plenty of bubble wrap.
I ordered the Temple Reef "Innovate" INV-80-MH. I plan on using it for 180g-300g jigs in up to 400' of water.
Rod came in a very nice padded case.View attachment 1095803
I also have a Black Hole "Cape Cod Special" B-662HMF that I used for size comparisons.
The butt sections are similar sized.View attachment 1095805
The innovate is a longer rod so the thicker section extends farther up making it seem like a thicker rod.View attachment 1095807
However if you even up the joint sections, you can see that the tip sections are similarly sized.View attachment 1095806
Fuji guides all the way up. View attachment 1095809
Double foot transitioning to single foot towards the tip.View attachment 1095808
Can't wait to get a weather window out here so I can take it for a spin! The rod is very light and feels good in the hand. (I have it paired with an Accurate 500N that I picked up for Cyber Mon).
Anyway if you are thinking about trying one out, drop Benny a line and he can get you set up. Looking forward to an on the water report.

Thanks Benny !
Had an almost identical experience! Couple of PM’s, executed order, follow up email with shipping/tracking info, shipped Monday and arrived yesterday with excellent packing! Looking forward to posting picks. Debating on which reel to pair it up with, JX Raptor, MXJ Raptor or Komodo 471 or do I need to find something else? Many thanks Benny!