Increased crime in Baja?

Discussion in 'Baja Mexico Fishing Reports and Discussion' started by Montaj629, May 25, 2018.

  1. fatoldcapt

    fatoldcapt Newbie

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    A friend on his first trip with us was going to bring his gun. He has a carry permit and always has it on him. We discussed the matter pre-trip. He was appalled that he couldn't take it. But, left it at home. It's worth discussing the matter before you go.
    One other issue that I've seen reports on in Baja Nomads is knifes. In some cities you can be arrested for carrying a pocket knife. Some say they have been harassed for having a folding knife within their reach in the cab of the truck. So, put your knives in your shave kit or tool box, etc.
    Other than these two major issues it's pretty much like the US. Seat belts, Don't talk on the cell phone while driving and don't drive drunk.
     
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  2. denis

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    This all sounds like common sense to me
     
  3. NGSD1

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  4. apple harbor

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    Chicago population 9,500,000 Tijuana population 3,100,000,Baja sur population 770,000.....Murders in Tijuana end of May 2018- 927 ,Murders Chicago end of May 2018 191.Baja california Sur murders average 25-50,2014 -70 murders,2015- 151 murders,2017 560 murders. 2018??? still climbing...Murder per 100,000 Baja Sur 78.6,Murder per 100,000 Chicago 17.52 .Baja California Sur is now second in all of Mexico in murder percentage per 100,000 people.Hell Ensenada had 191 last year, 522,000 population.If Ensenada was as populated as Chicago then the number would be 955...2017 murders Chicago 650, in 2017 Tijuana 1700 murders 2018 looks like over 2000 by the end of December.If T.J. had 9,500,000 people then stats for 2017 would be 5,100 murders.
     
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  5. denis

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    How many were Americans traveling to fishing areas ?
     
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  6. hawkplayer32

    hawkplayer32 I'd rather be fishing.

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    The people are really nice down there, but they do steal.
     
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  7. Blackfish

    Blackfish Fishing, a perpetual series of occasions for hope.

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    Question....are these murders related to the cartel and street gangs, or just random acts of violence?
     
  8. jbarbosa

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    People who steal are "really nice"..?? That's a new one to me.......
     
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  9. apple harbor

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    Thugs and Drugs fuel the Chicago murders,as such in Mexico too.I would classify fishermen as tourist,you could be in your hotel,restaurant,bar hopping,shopping etc. not just on a boat.The news is out there concerning violent crimes ,burglaries,theft,robbing at gun point,assault ,concerning tourist.As far as the expats who live here that's a whole different category concerning crime on foreigners.I'll leave it at that, there are to many good folks down here that just want you to have fun and fish,I would never bring up an area where shit happened and it was in a colonial where we all fish.It's bad for the locals,and l truly care about those folks.But when people say watch your P's and Q's good advice,but it's bigger then that.Oh yeah l think l will also keep 20 ft spray radius can of wasp spray on the truck ,have to put that one on the shopping list.
     
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  10. aguilarserrato

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    Guys. If you need to go to Mexico, do it and don’t worry. Dennis is going to be praying for all of you.
     
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    So they say thank you as there ripping you off ?
     
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  12. denis

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    I wish the best and pray for everyone to have safe trips even you my friend
     
  13. Leslie. Christensen

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    Have a good one Denis, report? Some people will never get it, have fun, tell you captain howdy, probably stop by his house in a few weeks if I see his boat,
     
  14. wahoochaser2003

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    I have been going to Baja for twenty five years, drove it four times, delivering a van, a boat and a trailer to the truest best friend I have ever had. I agree, the Mexican people, as a whole, are some of the sweetest folks I ever met. Drove it once with my wife, just to show her one of the most beautiful, fantastic places I have ever been. I have never felt more alive in my life than when I was driving the Baja. That being said, I would never, ever do it again unless it was in a caravan of at least two groups. The juice just ain't worth the squeeze. Way to dangerous. La Paz is my favorite city in all of Mexico but I haven't been there since the cartel lit the place up, three or four years ago. Way, way to many murders. I have a panga and a truck down there.and spend months at a time on The East Cape. Things have changed in Baja Sur, ask anyone who spends any time there.
     
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    The Mexican army made a bonfire for me and my girlfriend for 100 pesos while camping in Gonzaga. It was the most relaxing trip of my life.
     
  17. Leslie. Christensen

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    Yep that's the attitude, stay positive and flexible, if you can't why go? 0626150937a.jpg
     
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    The safest place to camp anywhere in Baja is near a garrison of Mexican soldiers.
     
  19. Jones-White

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    Keep your cash hidden and always carry $20/40 in your pocket for that pesky popo that will sometimes pull you over
     
  20. fishkilr

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    This is a huge prob for me...
    If the police are willing and expected to break the law in what many consider an acceptable way what is to stop them from going to far..
    Where is the line drawn...?
     
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