In Case Your Fishing Canada

barnettm

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This is not bad unless they use the info to further abuse us. It is nice not having to call Canada anymore. Now you do not have to insure your crew has passport or enhanced license.
 

fishing fanatic

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Classic wdfw bullshit! They are rolling out the red carpet for a solid f**king we will be taking, likely financially, next year. As jay stated, greatly understaffed, and now allocate resources to this?
How them nets doing anyways? Wtf!
 
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Dash One

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With the State assuming so much sweeping authority, I wonder what the penalty is for non-compliance.

Here's my Wild ID number :2gunsfiring_v1: you cockroaches. :finger: in your stoopid ass.

I'm clear,

Jay
 

ledbed6b

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You never had to call US Customs to just fish the waters....and return. (only if you had to declare certain items - ie large $$, tobacco, alcohol... etc... fish and shellfish not included.... per our Feds.)
This is incorrect based on multiple discussions I have had with US customs. The public website and pamphlets still have the rules from 2009 where you did not need to check in if fishing only. However the official policy was updated such that you did need to check in with customs upon re-entry even for fishing.

Now that being said I have no idea how they would punish you when the only public information contradicts the formal rule.

Believe me, trying to get a straight answer on this subject is a nightmare but I did my own research and I play by the rules I found in doing that research
 

BugeaterInWa

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stoopid is as stoopid does...

I would really like to know just who the F came up with this brilliance... There is a scheme here, I'm sure of it.
 
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Rellis

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Another opportunity as one said earlier in this thread. Wait for next year. I will pay my way to play but what's in your wallet? Anyway they do need a WAy to determine that your fish was from Canada aye.
 

BugeaterInWa

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I'm thinking its some one amongst us who put this forward.

On another subject but from the same thought (some amongst us) I also hear there might be some Hali info released/avail soon... This is coming from (not directly to me) the Cronquistmister of ___ and ___!

Hali tag auctions coming to a dealer near you!

Really too fucking bad there are SOOOOOOOOOOOO fucking many blind, deaf, dumb sheeple in this herd of sport fishers.
 

Fish_kid

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I'm thinking its some one amongst us who put this forward.

On another subject but from the same thought (some amongst us) I also hear there might be some Hali info released/avail soon... This is coming from (not directly to me) the Cronquistmister of ___ and ___!

Hali tag auctions coming to a dealer near you!

Really too fucking bad there are SOOOOOOOOOOOO fucking many blind, deaf, dumb sheeple in this herd of sport fishers.
Actually I don't think Dave is the brain child on this, and the e-mail I have seen says he thinks it's a stupid idea...
Not sure where it came from...
 

Phish'n Phool

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As stated above, WDFW used the Canadian access # as proof you actually "fished" there, if they checked you at port. They updated all the rules in the pamphlet last year. Then the Canadians decided to open all access to US fisherman, without calling for access #, which pissed off WDFW leadership. We are being punished as a result. Seems to me that a marked Canadian license should suffice without all the BS forms.
 

FVSerenity

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I'm not sure, I always call the cbp, they never said anything about not having to? I tell them I'm coming over for the day to fish and they give me my controlNumber. You are entering Canada why wouldn't you have to check in? What has wdfw got to do with that?

I never catch anything in Canada anyways;)
 

Sockeye71

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This is incorrect based on multiple discussions I have had with US customs. The public website and pamphlets still have the rules from 2009 where you did not need to check in if

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Well....I guess the Chief US Customs Manager at the Truck crossing told me incorrect when I went up to get my license in March. I stopped in and spoke with him I have his name in my boat in case anyone ever stopped me.

He clearly said that only if you have "certain" items to declare - then gave me the examples.

I specifically asked him if we just went fishing and returned with FISH / Shellfish if we needed to do anything. He said "no"....He did make a funny comment that the "Customs guys" in Anacortes are pretty strict.... oh well.

I'm not calling in until they show me the RCW or passed statute that calls for this action. It is different than "in-season" species management... and that's what they're using as their authority for this action.
 
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Mpizzle

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I don't see any citation issued by DFW for fish harvest in Canada having any legs in a court of law. Canadian fish, Canadian waters, Canadian license.... no way DFW can force you to have a WA license..... nice try though guys.
 

BugeaterInWa

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What business is it of WDFW if I or others fish in another countries waters?

Simple question I think? Not WA fish not WA quota, not WA juris... If you hunt in Canada, do you have to inform WDFW that your going to Canada to hunt?

Collecting data... for what purpose?

Simply put, WDFW and others in their ear (Wolves amongst us) track record over the past several years has brought all this skepticism on themselves as most feel completely unsupported by WDFW and disenfranchised.
 
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barnettm

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If they start requiring us to file a post fishing report with number and type of fish caught, then the courts should here about it. What I am afraid of is that, with this system, they will discover how many people have bailed on US fisheries and gone to Canada. Then they will apply their famous fuzzy math of # people * some are cheaters and fish US *# fish caught *endangered * etc *etc and come up with further restrictions on our allotment.
 
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EJ Swanny

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Please, SOMEONE, please explain the dead-nuts rules to me like I'm the village idiot (I am). Not....... "I'm not choosing to do this or that", just the new regulations on the Canadian and Washington (U.S.) side.

So, in the past, once I entered Canadian waters I called Canadian #, they asked a bunch of questions (location, intent, passengers, liquor (I lie of course), money, etc., etc.) at the end of the call I would get a number. Write it down, fish, be happy.

Now, I go to this WDFW website and just fill that form out and I'm free as a bird. How early in advanced do I need to fill the form out? What if I decide to stay an extra day or if I have 2 passengers instead of 3 at the last minute? I do not have to notify BC AT ALL???? What if I get checked by a BC fishery boat, give them some stupid WDFW confirmation #??????

In theory it is a helluva alot easier...just fill some dumbass form out 2 weeks before I go....but is it that simple?????

Thanks for any info.....Swanny
 
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Please, SOMEONE, please explain the dead-nuts rules to me like I'm the village idiot (I am). Not....... "I'm not choosing to do this or that", just the new regulations on the Canadian and Washington (U.S.) side.

So, in the past, once I entered Canadian waters I called Canadian #, they asked a bunch of questions (location, intent, passengers, liquor (I lie of course), money, etc., etc.) at the end of the call I would get a number. Write it down, fish, be happy.

Now, I go to this WDFW website and just fill that form out and I'm free as a bird. How early in advanced do I need to fill the form out? What if I decide to stay an extra day or if I have 2 passengers instead of 3 at the last minute? I do not have to notify BC AT ALL???? What if I get checked by a BC fishery boat, give them some stupid WDFW confirmation #??????

In theory it is a helluva alot easier...just fill some dumbass form out 2 weeks before I go....but is it that simple?????

Thanks for any info.....Swanny

Simple. The previous way did not involve WDFW. It was a customs thing, plain and simple. Now the powers to be at customs decided as long as you are only salmon fishing and not making landfall they really don't want to be bothered by you. Make sure your shit is still squared away if you do get boarded by Canadian fisheries though.

All of the sudden fishing Canada for salmon became easy. So, small resorts on the straights are trying to save their livelihood, (Masons for one) and asking people to stay with them and fish Canada for the month of Sept. WDFW thought they had us all shutdown for a Sept season so they are all pissed now. They decided to make it inconvenient to fish Canada again so they decided on this new rule. And also found a way to track the who and how many are fishing Canada. Its a precursor move to more regulations and the continued downward spiral of WDFW( Washington Department of Financial Waste)