ideas for a a Ideal reel

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  1. Walter_Lars

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    I am looking at tackleing a CNC machining school
    as a final project we have to design and build something of our own design
    I was thinking of something along the lines of a accuplates side frames
    so My question here is in a narrow spool reel what features would included
    the rest of componets would have off the self hot rod parts
    spool and spacers
    I am leaning towards a 506 style reel
    so in a dream reel what gears and drags would want to see
    what style of side plates flat sided like accurate or slightly domed like progears ?

    How would you the other readers frankenstein the perfect narrow spool reel ?
     
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    Machine some aluminum Penn 500 or 112H sized sideplates to accept a complete Newell 600 bridge & sleeve assembly & bearings, and a 99 width spool and shaft to match. Domed would be good.

    Shrinking a 631 down to the size of a 332 would rock, IMFUO. Narrowing it further to a 506/322 would work too.

    Don't forget me if you make it happen. :D
     
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    due to time and money about the fishing I can fit in/afford is a 3/4 or full day trip so I am thinking a 506/501 sized reel
    I like the idea of a domed off-sideplate on a narrow reel
    hopfuly I can get a 5 stack drag and 5 -1 gears or higher in it
    your of dropping a complete newell bridge gear set in has merit
     
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    Add a level line bar to high speed internals (6:1) (yes, I know this is more than you can do for a school project). Alternatively, do a magnum jigmaster.
     
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    I would find a Pro Gear CS 625 and copy it; great reel and fits your criteria.
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    J.AkuHed I've posted enough I should edit this section

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    Pro gear is 5:1 and uses 6/0 sized drags. Penn uses brass gears, the gears in the ProGear's are S/S. Penn 500 has no bearings the ProGear has 4 bearings
     
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    yes I was thinking about using ball bearings like the 505/506 model
    5to1 gears sounds doable
    if I take it to a extreme 6.2 to 1 like on a shamino speed master might work
    but then fighting back line on a WSB or YT might be a real work out
    the extra surface area that a 6/0 drag might be a [email protected] 20#
    all the components have to work together
    25# of drag on 20# line wouldn't work
    so its a balancing act between all the parts
    I do like the idea of the one piece side and spacer bars and the domed side plate of the progear you showed
    less joints to fail and less places for salt water corrosion and green gunk to get in
    a fine thread pitch gear sleeve like Alan Tani's stainless steel up grade will be necessary with all the drag pressure a set of 6/0 drags can produce
    I think a level wind or a lever drag would to complicated for a first project

    and wreckinball yes I am thinking about producing a couple extra if its allowed and I can afford the compents up front :jig:
     
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    A Daiwa Sealine SL20SH has 6/0 sized drags, that is a 15/20# reel..
     
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    keep us posted with progress pics if ya can!
     
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    I agree about the complexity on a school project. Actually, I meant a wobble bar, as per the Penn 350. Recenty saw it on an inshore reel. But the ProGear is a great product to thieve!

     
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    word doc said

    Actually, I meant a wobble bar, as per the Penn 350.
    well I have never seen a use for a wobble bar design unless your missing a left thumb Hey My other hobby/vice is wood-working so I have seen some missing digits
    I ether fly line or throw iron :jig: for fly lineing I don't like any thing extra to slow down the spool since 'chovies don't weight anything its hard to get any distance so I don't anything un-nessary robbing My cast of kentic energy /distance
    unless there is a way to disconnect the wobble bar and its drive train its a energy drag
    I am just not convinced that a wobble bar or level wind adds anything to the cast or catching
    when your only casting 10-20% of a reels line capacity

    on a smaller/narrower reel Ala' calcutta 50 or 100 or any reel with a "V" shaped spool that can only hold a 100 yards or so its very possible to cast off up to 50% of the capacity of that reel
    I learned to fish salt water back some 46 years ago
    <gawd I sound old saying that > I was only 8 when I started and leveling out the line on a spool dureing retieve is second nature and I don't even think about it
    I am not opposed to new ideas or ways of doing things if I am convinced they add something Improve to the process

    carbon-tex drags and super slick lubes ? trickedout bearings as opposed to bushing and leather drag washers Yes !

    what does a wobble bar or a level wind add to the process of casting or catching ?
    I am open to hear what you have to say
     

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