Ideal kite set up

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  1. potuna

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    What I have is an Seeker osp 4x with a Mak gold 50 wide, 200lb hollow to a 200lb leader. Would a 70 or 80 be better? 130 hollow to a 100 yards of 200 hollow? Leader? Thoughts?
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    IMO You are more than OK with that set up......I would run straight 130# solid or hollow......no need IMO for 200# spectra......200# harder to fly in light wind and less capacity.......the ABS for 130# JB hollow is right about 190#.
     
  3. Bill W

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    If you find the right hand hold on a 70 or 80 it is easy. And while 130# works I have 1000 yards of 200# on my ATD-80. I really like going to full when the sharks are thick and 38# at strike goes to 50# at full. I would be scared to go there with 130#.

    Grab the front bar on the reel. Ask what the boat uses for Spectra on it’s kite boat reels.
     
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    Bill do you think you will break 130# hollow with a abs of 190# in full with your 80....seriously you are only pulling 50# at full......
     
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    .the ABS for 130# JB hollow is right about 190#.


    With 50# of drag. what scares you with a ABS of 190# Bill,
    I would be afraid of being pulled overboard.
     
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    At the reel is 50#... While I have heard that 130# flies better, all I have ever used for the kite is 200#, leader is 250#. Inserting into 200# works better than inserting into 130#. My ATD-80 I bought from Jack at Accurate already had 1000 yards of 200# izor. Absolutely love to fish the kite and I would not want to change a thing. But that is just me...
     
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    I do not do it often but if you point the rod at the fish and rock and reel that works. Not a big guy here but I am not strapped in and fish the rail.

    Screamingreel fishes a heavy drag. All that is on the line is my outfit, and if I get in trouble I get low on the rail.
     
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    I had an 80S that Cal did but for some dumb reason I sold it. I was thinking of getting a 70 vis or 80 size, no wides though. Avet 80/3 might be the most versatile but I’ve had bad luck with the bigger Avets, thoughts?
     
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    Agree
    I would stick with Accurate's, Penn's or Mak's for kite reels. I use a 50 filled with 130 JB and a 100-150 foot splice of 200. I can't see me breaking any of that LOL
     
  10. offshore6

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    For my past long trips, I have used a Penn 80W and, for a couple of fish, I was very glad that I had the line capacity. Plus, that reel is a tank when it comes time to put the wood to the fish. I still fish in a harness so the "wide" aspect of the reel isn't a problem. I just purchased a Penn 70VIS for local swordfish and I am going to try it as the kite reel in January. About 4 lbs. lighter than the 80W and still PLENTY of line capacity. The only reel that I have ever sent swimming was a kite reel borrowed from the boat that was a 50 (not wide) loaded with 200. The fish took all that line quickly and was still going when it went into the water. Lost the fish to a pulled hook.
     
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    I used a Tiagra 50W for years, never enough line on it! On the Rooster, sometimes the kite is just a spot on the horizon, and the 50W would be down to about a 1/3 of a spool when that far out. You gain some line back on the take, but a good sized fish will pull you to the rail and start dumping your reel, although I never was spooled. Changed to an AVET 80, 960 yards of 200 pound hollow to 250 pound leader, about 50 feet or so, and I've never been sad that I did. I also fish in a harness so the size and weight of the reel means not much. All I have to do is turn the handle. So, it seems I agree with everybody, you can use a 50 W or an 80. Don't think I would like an 80W though.

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    Just saw an ATD 80 today, that’s a boat winch. I don’t know how you hang onto that monster.
     
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    Kinda the wrong thread by why does no one use wire for a kite leader
     
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    SHARKS...
     
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    My limited experience, I like a 50W, 130 and a stiffy, like that 4X.
     
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    That’s what I have except straight 200
     
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    A 80 does give the most long distance option and allows the farthest back deployment. Opens up the most of the playing field. If the crew wants to fish the kite way out the back then the 80 will get the bait there. Example, your out the back and a good one shows farther out the back. Let the kite out farther. Capacity

    A 80 is allot of reel to handle. I had reel wobble with my first kite cow on a 80. Granny gear was slow as I went into low to soon also. Reel wobble. First time I ever fished a 80 amd held one fishing. Now that I give it more thought. The crew flew my bait way out the back. To a area not related to the boat. Because of the 80s capacity. I don't think the crew would had flown me that far out with a 50w

    Caught a kite 196 dock weighed on a accurate 50w. The reel was easier to handle for me then a 80. Bait was close to the boat

    Caught a 190ish slow troll kite close to the boat. With the 80. 8 minute fish. In high

    The 80 opens up the playing field the most and is also the most work to fish. But you get the most distance possible. A advantage with the kite. Screw it. 80 more tiring to fish but more playing field to fish. The point is to hook a trophy fish and not get taken to the knot

    Hmm a 80 offers more productivity. But dang they are heavy
     
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    80 better odds of winning the lottery
     
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    50W would be my reel of choice, 130# spectra flies better in light wind conditions, and is plenty strong for me. 80s are beasts, I have one, never bring it anymore. Way too big of a machine for me.
     
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    Cubeye I've posted enough I should edit this section

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    Hell, I would be afraid to go to 50# of drag with any size line unless I was using a hand line.
     

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