i want to shoot an elk

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I'm new to hunting but the one thing i really want to do is spot stalk an elk with my bow.... i just don't know where to go, or if i can afford it. Any suggestions? i have family in Bend, Oregon, how is elk hunting there?

Draw weight is a concern of mine too. I'm pulling about 40lbs now (but i'm practicing). What weight would i need at what range to get an ethical shot?
 
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to heck with the elk, you're killin me from right there
 
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    I'm new to hunting but the one thing i really want to do is spot stalk an elk with my bow.... i just don't know where to go, or if i can afford it. Any suggestions? i have family in Bend, Oregon, how is elk hunting there?

    Draw weight is a concern of mine too. I'm pulling about 40lbs now (but i'm practicing). What weight would i need at what range to get an ethical shot?

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    have you killed anything with your bow yet? No is a ok answer as you might have a bit of a wait to get drawn for a elk tag. I would use the services of Nate ( el toro on this site ) to help you pick good places to send applications to. It could take a few years to get drawn for a elk tag. While you wait go out and shoot lots of things with your bow. pigs deer squirrels fish and anything you can get your hands on. By the time you get your tag you will have learned how to call elk and how to kill shit.

    Cost can be anything from 500 to 10,000 depending on if you are doing public land or private and if you hire a guide. Elk hunting is demanding and i would plan on at least 2 weeks of hunting time if you are on public land. Guided hunts are normally 7 days.

    In checking your profile you only have one friend and its Brian (IMAKECARSFAST) i would ditch him as a friend that will improve your odds a lot.
     
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    I'm new to hunting but the one thing i really want to do is spot stalk an elk with my bow.... i just don't know where to go, or if i can afford it. Any suggestions? i have family in Bend, Oregon, how is elk hunting there?

    Draw weight is a concern of mine too. I'm pulling about 40lbs now (but i'm practicing). What weight would i need at what range to get an ethical shot?

    Please excuse our class clown Skip Jackson! ;)

    There are a few guys on here (Shocktower & SNEEKEE) who hunt up in the Oregon area. Im in sorta the same boat as you are but I'm starting to figure it out. I'm somewhat new to hunting (4-years) and a shoulder injury has me drawing @ 45lbs.

    Me...I like Colorado. They have a huge elk population and allot of units that you can buy tags for over the counter. You probably don't want to go hunting with a bunch of strange, perverted, drunk guys like everyone on here except for me of course! So...I would search the internet for a quality and highly recommended guided hunt. A guided hunt will run anywhere from $2,000-$20,000.

    I would also recommend joining the RMEF and attend their annual banquet which auctions off some great deals on guided hunts. You will also meet some good people in the process.

    If you wanted to do a DIY hunt, the costs vary greatly depending on what type of hunting you chooses to do. I know you say spot and stalk but are we talking from a cabin, campground or a wilderness pack hunt?

    The DIY Colorado hunt that I was to do last year was @ $1,200.00 and that covered everything for a 2-week hunt riding quads from a campground.

    You will have to check state laws regarding the draw weights required. I have no doubt that you could get a full pass through with a 40lb draw @ 20 yards. I would say 30 yards would be your limit at 40lbs with the correct arrow and broadhead. Obviously a two blade fixed head with a heavier arrow are all things to consider as you get closer. Any bow shop would be able to get you set-up with your equipment.

    Hit el joto up when he gets back from NM and he'll hook you up!
     
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    Please excuse our class clown Skip Jackson! ;)

    There are a few guys on here (Shocktower & SNEEKEE) who hunt up in the Oregon area. Im in sorta the same boat as you are but I'm starting to figure it out. I'm somewhat new to hunting (4-years) and a shoulder injury has me drawing @ 45lbs.

    Me...I like Colorado. They have a huge elk population and allot of units that you can buy tags for over the counter. You probably don't want to go hunting with a bunch of strange, perverted, drunk guys like everyone on here except for me of course! So...I would search the internet for a quality and highly recommended guided hunt. A guided hunt will run anywhere from $2,000-$20,000.

    I would also recommend joining the RMEF and attend their annual banquet which auctions off some great deals on guided hunts. You will also meet some good people in the process.

    If you wanted to do a DIY hunt, the costs vary greatly depending on what type of hunting you chooses to do. I know you say spot and stalk but are we talking from a cabin, campground or a wilderness pack hunt?

    The DIY Colorado hunt that I was to do last year was @ $1,200.00 and that covered everything for a 2-week hunt riding quads from a campground.

    Hit el joto up when he gets back from NM and he'll hook you up!
    damn I'm healing up faster than you am buying dbar's bow 70lb am now able to draw 60 for sure the surgery came out right after all...
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    In checking your profile you only have one friend and its Brian (IMAKECARSFAST) i would ditch him as a friend that will improve your odds a lot.

    :rofl:!
     
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    damn I'm healing up faster than you am buying dbar's bow 70lb am now able to draw 60 for sure the surgery came out right after all...
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    I'm doing everything I can to avoid having a plastic shoulder! Hopefully I can just get back to 60lbs again...
     
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    I'm doing everything I can to avoid having a plastic shoulder! Hopefully I can just get back to 60lbs again...
    damn I guess that's what happens when you keep missing a stroke when you switch hands
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    I'm not much of a local on this site but I will throw in my two cents.I did my first two elk hunts lasts year and we had a blast but you're definatly stepping up to the big leagues with every aspect of the hunt. I would suggest getting a land owner tag for a cow elk . I know in NM you can get a list of who has tags after they have been given out to the land owner then call around and see if there the land owner has any left. If you look around you should have no problem finding a cow elk tag tag for $600 to $900 bucks.
     
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    Two guys I would suggest, John I call him Utah. He goes be Diesel 6.0 on this site. Him and his wife hunt a kill every year. Sends out jerky also. :urno1:
    or Idaho Here is a pic of what he does with a bow.
     

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    I can prolly hook you up with some CO contacts. My Ranch/Farm doesn't hold Elk but I know some fellas that have the higher stuff near Gunnison or the S West.

    Aint' gonna be cheap even public land. Oregon is probably your best best. AZ for us yocals.
     
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    I'm new to hunting but the one thing i really want to do is spot stalk an elk with my bow.... i just don't know where to go, or if i can afford it. Any suggestions? i have family in Bend, Oregon, how is elk hunting there?

    Draw weight is a concern of mine too. I'm pulling about 40lbs now (but i'm practicing). What weight would i need at what range to get an ethical shot?

    Now there something to strive for!

    I'd get your comfort zone with the bow to at least 55lbs up to 50-60 yds. Elk are not a small animal and you can't always get close so stretching your effective range I'd get good at 70., then anything close will be.......easy?

    With no experience at hunting a spot and stalk will probably require a guide or someone with a really good knowledge of the country. You better be in top notch shape. A guided elk hunt if you are after a mature bull will run you at least $4000 and up depending on what package you buy and where you hunt.

    I know guys that will spend 3 g's on an unguided hunt on public land and go several years before they get one.

    All it takes is money and time.
     
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    Rubberhook is a good person to contact for bow hunting Elk in AZ, and NM. If you decide to do a rilfe hunt in UT or NV I can point you in the right direction.
     
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    The Fred Hall Show in Long Beach (don't know about Del Mar) usually has a few outfitters you could talk to. They are also expanding there seminars to include hunting this year.
     
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    The first hurdle, as others have said, is getting the tag. Not an easy task considering states like Arizona only allocate 10% of the total tags to non-residents. You have to purchase an Arizona license just to apply ($152) then if drawn the non-res tag will run you $595. At that point you are in a position to go elk hunting in Arizona. The other option would be to purchase a land owner tag to avoid the whole tag drawing process but that could run several thousand especially for a bull elk tag on a property holding a large herd of elk.

    Once you have a tag do you hire a local guide or do the hunt on your own. Hiring a local guide will run several more thousand dollars but increases your odds of not only seeing elk in the area you are hunting but also increases the odds of harvesting one. Bow hunting elk is usually done during the rut when the bulls are susceptible to calling and usually requires one or two people adept at calling to be set up downwind of your location to draw the bull to you and into bow range. Everything has to be perfect and alot can go wrong. As my guide once said, elk make a living out there and are pretty good at detecting danger. The other bowhunting option for elk is to sit on tanks (waterholes) in the afternoons in a concealed ground blind or treestand and hope a bull elk comes in for water before legal shooting time ends. Do you see a pattern here...trying to get the bull elk to come to you.

    Unless you have alot of knowledge of a hunting area where you have drawn the tag, or hunt with someone who does, hunting without a guide can mean several trips of pre-scouting an area before the actual hunt begins to locate areas that hold the elk and the water holes that they use frequently in that area. The thorough knowlegde of the use of a GPS to locate these areas, many times in the dark, is critical. Getting back to your vehicle, also in the dark, or relocating your downed animal to pack it out, are also where the use of a GPS becomes extremely important.

    Last but not least is the fact that the real work begins once you have been successful in harvesting your elk. After the picture taking is complete comes the work of caring for the animal. Elk are large animals and can weigh in excess of 800 pounds. The process of caring for your trophy, which you may want to have mounted and certainly will want to eat, involves gutting, skinning/caping, removing antlers if it is a bull, quartering, removing backstraps and tenderlions, and preparing the above to be packed out, which sometimes involves hanging the meat in a tree high above the ground (lots of bears, lions and wolves in elk counrty) until such time that it can be packed out of the area. I recall the first time I packed out an elk, in the dark, having a 100 pound hind quarter on my back, in terrain so steep I had to use both hands to keep from falling while holding a flashlight in my teeth. While having 100 pounds of raw elk meat strapped to me my guides continually talked about how many bears and mountain lions that had seen in that particular area as we walked in the dark. I felt like a bacon wrapped appetizer...

    Elk hunting is not easy. From obtaining the tag, to locating the animal, to getting into effective bow hunting range without being detected, to making the shot with an incredible amount of adrenaline flowing, to the caring of and removal of the animal from the hunting area which can be some of the nastiest terrain known to man, bow hunting elk is a serious task. That is why I enjoy it so much. Elk hunting opportunities, drawing a quality tag in a quality area, do not come around often and when they do you want to do everything in your power to increase your odds of success.

    For me that means hiring a local guide intimately familar with the area and its elk, getting in the best physical condition I can and going in with the right mental attitude.

    Once you taste the rush, like all addictions, you will be back for more...
     
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    Thanks for all the great info!
    I will most likely be giving you guys a yell at a later date with some specific questions but I think I have a good place to start at now. An elk hunt is something I've wanted to do for a long time, and I'm sure more questions will arise.

    Thanks guys!
     
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    Arizona is the spot for BIG ELK!! Lot's of open land, we are to the point where they are over grazing & crouding out the deer population. Plenty of room for you come on out & get ya one!!
     
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    x 4 on how hard it can be...... i had 45+ unguided days hunting time in before i got my first elk. I can not tell you how many close calls and blown stalks i had. The worst part of the deal up till i got one was that i had a broadside 10 yard shot at a 300 class bull 30 min into the first day of my first elk hunt ever. since then i have killed 3 bulls unguided :)

    Learn how to use diaphragm calls. It will take a while but learning how to speak elk with a mouth call is critical to killing them

    the first time you walk up on one when its dead you will say OMFG its as big as a horse how the hell am i going to move it :)
     
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