I’m now engaged to the Excel and need Cow trip advice…

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Damn, karaoke really. Not my thing but as long as I don’t have to sing it’s NP. Anyone bring a guitar;)
So in some bad weather the machine broke free from the tie down holding it to a railing.

We have not replaced it and not sure if it will be replaced. The highlight of the Karaoke Team Hoo experience was walking into the galley and seeing Mike Ramirez singing Freddy Fender tunes. It was epic!!

No guitars that I have seen.
 
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I explained to Ken over the phone who the RZA, the GZA, Ol' Dirty Bastard, Inspectah Deck, Raekwon the Chef, U-God, Ghostface Killah and the Method Man are.
 
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Ok. With the expectation of being ridiculed and humiliated….what the heck is “WU”? Hate acronyms anyway.
WU is short for the Wu Tang Clan.

They are "the" seminal rap group from Staten Island NY.

No you wont be ridiculed and humiliated.

I grew up with them on the radio in NY. There are many on the BD boards that are disciplies of the Shaolin style as well.

I believe your rod builder is one of them!

Too funny thanks for asking.
 
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Would I be ridiculed if I were on this trip and wore double hearing protection (ear plugs AND ear muffs)? Otherwise, I'd have to outdrink everyone on board to stand the music. But then I wouldn't be able to stand at the rail to fish. It would be a conundrum. LOL
 
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I explained to Ken over the phone who the RZA, the GZA, Ol' Dirty Bastard, Inspectah Deck, Raekwon the Chef, U-God, Ghostface Killah and the Method Man are.
I would have loved to been on that call.

Should we expose him to WU financial services featuring Dave Chappelle?
 
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Thanks for clarifying. That part of my life is a blur. Began my career as a neurosurgeon in ‘92. Didn’t lift my head up until the late 90’s. So the WU wasn’t on my radar.
 
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Thanks for clarifying. That part of my life is a blur. Began my career as a neurosurgeon in ‘92. Didn’t lift my head up until the late 90’s. So the WU wasn’t on my radar.
It’s never too late.
 
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If you haven't fished your VISX yet, I would recommend putting them under load and reel both in high gear and low gear to make sure the gears don't "skip". I recently brought a 12 and a 16 on my trip. The 12 would skip in high gear and that relegated me to using the low gear. Kinda sucked.
I have a 20 that is starting to"skip" . I have not figured it out yet.

Have you figured out what is causing the skip ?

Mine got progressively worse and when it 'skips', it causes a pressure wave to go down the line and will cause the bluefin jig to come unhooked.

I am wondering if i need a thin shim to push the gear further up the shaft. This is the first post I have seen anyone refer to this type of issue.
 
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I have a 20 that is starting to"skip" . I have not figured it out yet.

Have you figured out what is causing the skip ?

Mine got progressively worse and when it 'skips', it causes a pressure wave to go down the line and will cause the bluefin jig to come unhooked.

I am wondering if i need a thin shim to push the gear further up the shaft. This is the first post I have seen anyone refer to this type of issue.
Never heard of that problem. Would get someone at Penn or Alan Tani to look at it.
 
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    If you haven't fished your VISX yet, I would recommend putting them under load and reel both in high gear and low gear to make sure the gears don't "skip". I recently brought a 12 and a 16 on my trip. The 12 would skip in high gear and that relegated me to using the low gear. Kinda sucked.
    This is a real and known problem in the VISX line. I found out the hard way at the LUPE on a big yellowfin tuna. Landed the fish and got the reel taken care of when we returned. It was a bummer as I had dropped a wad on the VISX 16 and when she skipped it scared the crap out of me.
     
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    This is a real and known problem in the VISX line. I found out the hard way at the LUPE on a big yellowfin tuna. Landed the fish and got the reel taken care of when we returned. It was a bummer as I had dropped a wad on the VISX 16 and when she skipped it scared the crap out of me.
    I had Ken at Ken’s custom reels get after the reel, he sent it to Penn and they fixed the problem gratis. Alan Tani has a post on his site the breaks down the problem.
     
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    I have a 20 that is starting to"skip" . I have not figured it out yet.

    Have you figured out what is causing the skip ?

    Mine got progressively worse and when it 'skips', it causes a pressure wave to go down the line and will cause the bluefin jig to come unhooked.

    I am wondering if i need a thin shim to push the gear further up the shaft. This is the first post I have seen anyone refer to this type of issue.
    I received the reel back from Penn last week. The "invoice" listed that the following were installed: a new high gear, gear separating washer and shift key. The repairs were done at no charge.
     
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    If you haven't fished your VISX yet, I would recommend putting them under load and reel both in high gear and low gear to make sure the gears don't "skip". I recently brought a 12 and a 16 on my trip. The 12 would skip in high gear and that relegated me to using the low gear. Kinda sucked.
    If your gears are skipping, send them in to be repaired under warranty. I just had my 16 and 20 serviced for similar. Under heavy load only ( night bluefin ), would skip a gear tooth or 2 and this sends shock wave down the line and fish pops off.

    You can also post a thread in BD "world of PEnn" and askSteve Carson ( moderator) what to do as you said NEW reels ( they have 1 year warranty )mmfyi
     
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    To be fair to Penn and other reel manufacturers, many of the broken gears, bearings or other issues that result in the "Skipping" during cranking can be attributed to user error. By this I mean the problems could have started due to whomever put Spectra on the reel, doing so under load and not in line perfectly with the center line of both the line winder arm and the center of the crank arm attachment point (Generally the center of the two speed change button), which could have caused an offset load. This generally results in the crank arm bearings having an offset load which in turn, under the heavier pressures often being used by line winders, results in a less than a clean matchup of the gearing.. Often times, the operator putting line onto the reel for the first time lines up the entire winding system perfectly.. However, once the load placed on the bulk spool by clutch/drag mechanism ramps up, often time the reel foot moves on the line winder holding device causing this offset situation.. All to often, if the offset is not too bad, the operator lets it go in order to more quickly get the job done.. This rarely ends well for the reel and it's internal components..

    The same issues can result when the angler offset loads the reel while fighting a fish under heavier drag.. All too often the rig twists in an anglers hands as they try to get cranks on the reel either in high or low speed..This is generally caused by off set cranking of the angler. Again, if the crank motion thru the 360 degree rotation is offset under a heavy load, for any reason, the load on the bearing is un-even thus causing the gear assemblies to not seat correctly.. This in turn could put an undue load on just 1 or 2 of the gear teeth. All this can and does result in bearing, gearing or other failures and more importantly that horrible skipping that occurs once those internal parts are messed up.

    Unfortunately, I see this result all too often. Luckily the reel manufacturers do fix the issues that may or may not be of their own making while under the warranty period however, if user error continues, the problem will continue well past the expiration of the warranty. Worse yet, the issue usually occurs when the angler is hooked up to their personal best fish..

    This is not to say the reels coming out of the manufacturer never are messed up rather all too often the real cause of the noted problem is user error. At the drag settings we are fighting fish with as well as the settings used to place new Spectra on the spool, the operator really needs to be on top of this alignment issue. Besides, having a smooth and non offset crank motion thru the 360 degree crank, like on a bicycle, places less strain on the angler as well as the reel while being so much more efficient.

    Have a great season.

    Respectfully,

    Jamie
     
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