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    Just got a HX Raptor and am looking for a rod to pair it with. I know the rod is a very important part of the equation so I was wondering what rods you guys have your hxs on to get some more ideas. I have been looking at UC, specifically the centaur but Calstar and seeker are not out of the running. (Ps: Looking to fish 80# with 1/3 drag and maybe 100 with 1/4-1/3 drag.)
     
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    Pull on the UC Centaur & Raptor 76’s and see which feels best to go. I run 60# on my HX Raptor on a Predator 76.
     
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    I have a 7'6" Predator that I pair with a standard HX/2 with 60# braid for 50# leader, like it a lot, only caught Oregon Halibut so far but a very capable 50# stick. The 8' Predator is rated up to 80# line, probably a better choice for your HX Raptor.

    I also have a 7'6" Centaur paired with a Mak 16 spooled with 100# braid, solid with 80# leader and could fish 100# if needed.

    If you are choosing between the Raptor and the Centaur, you might consider the 7'0" Centaur, the line rating is right in the sweet spot between the two although I have no personal experience with this stick...

    You might contact Jamie at Bob Sands tackle, he helped me choose the Predator and the Centaur, great guy and very knowledgeable. He also gave me an exceptionally good price...
     
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    Also look at the CP70HP and 80HP. that is what I use for 60#. I also have a tweener CX80 Raptor with my 3 speed Raptor that is between the HP and the Centaur..

    My .02
     
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    James,

    Totally depends on what you are targeting with that setup. BFT? I would choose the 76 Centaur. Can fish it from 60 - 100 and still have a fighting chance at landing a cow. It is not a light rod so some might shy away from it. I love mine with a Mak 16 on it.

    If you are likely to be targeting tuna under 100 lbs. then the Raptor might be a bit more forgiving and fun on those fish.
     
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    7'6" Centaur paired with an HXW raptor.
     
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    just got the CP70 HP, thanks for the suggestion @timmy
    I use it for yoyo and 60# live bait. The rod never runs out of power, On the centaur i fish 80 on a visx16 or mak15/16. With 80 and up i want a beefier reel i can crank hard on
     
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    The OP is looking for a rod to pair with the HX Raptor he just purchased.
     
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    I don’t mind if it’s heavy or not. I also have heard that the 76 Centaur can fish 60 to 100. That is a major plus so I can fish 60,80 or even 100# leaders with the same rod. John from trophy Tackle said that the 76 centaur is a legit 100 pound rod so after hearing that, I think that is the rod I am going to go with. It is very versatile but I do not think I am going to be fishing any higher than 80 on the that rod with the Hx because it seems like it is too small for that line class. Does anyone know what the drag range of that rod is by chance? My biggest fear is bottoming out the rod when the fish is doing circles
     
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    That rod has a ton of character. Every time I thought I had it bottomed out it found more backbone, the action is progressive under load unlike most other rods aside from the other UC rods. It handles 25 lbs. of drag no sweat and can be pushed to 33 lbs. with confidence. Much beyond that and you will likely find its limits. I consider it a light 100 lb. rod. If planning to fish 100 lb. for tuna over 150 lbs. I would choose the Viper and a reel with more line capacity.

    Checkout post #47 on this thread.

    https://www.bdoutdoors.com/forums/threads/uc-cx-76-centaur.641885/page-3


    But I think the Centaur will allow you to get the most out of that HX Raptor. And make a very versatile setup that fishes 60 -100 very well. Your only potential weakness is the somewhat limited line capacity of the HX. But I don't think it is a big deal and there are always backup rigs available should you hook a jumbo.:-)

    I have the Viper and Centaur and love them both!
     
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    Just looked at the CP 70 HP, it has a very nice bend to it. I am planning on using 26 lbs of drag at strike when I use 80# and 20 when I use 60#. I am looking for a rod that mainly handles 80 perfectly and also could handle 60. Im building this rig to go after these bluefin and I hear about people being on a fish for an hour or 2 and I just want to get the fish in quick and get another bait out so I feel like 33% drag is the way to go but I don’t have any real world experience yet. Do you recommend 1/3 at strike and can the cp70hp handle that kind of drag?
     
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    I have a RCP70XH rated 50 - 100 but after loading that rod up and comparing it to the Centaur I personally don't think they are in the same league. The handle is not built as a rail rod and the blank flexes much further down. I would stick with the 76 Centaur to have a rod that will not let you down and won't feel like a broomstick fishing 60.
     
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    I use 22# of drag for 60# and 28# for 80#. Just how I fish them. The CP70HP handles it no problem. Numerous yft over 100# on this rod. I will say it is easier for a heavier rod to fish lighter than vice versa. And the CP70HP and a Centaur are 2 very different animals. With 60# you are more apt to do what the fish wants rather than the other. With 80# the game starts to tilt in your favor, all things being equal and we are talking the bigger grade bft. If you haven't fished that heavy of gear or that grade of fish this is still all theoretical as you say since you do not know yet what you can handle or are comfortable fishing with. If your heavy reel is the Raptor I say it fishes 60# better than it does 80#. Not sure it pairs well wih the Centaur, imho it fairs better with the Raptor. So maybe look at that. I tend to like fast taper rods and many people do not. The CP series are pretty fast taper.
    Just a few things to think about, no right or wrong answers, just what works best for you. I have spent a lot of time and money figuring out what rods and reels work best for me in all applications.
     
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    OK thank you for your knowledge. I am going to consider getting the CP 70HP for the raptor. I like what you said about it is easier for a heavier rod to fish lighter than vice versa because when the fish is doing circles, from what I have read, I may need to go to full or palm the spool or both and I always want there to be backbone left during every stage of the fight. So you said your CX 80 raptor is in the middle of the 70hp and centaur? Would that be one worth looking at or should I look closer at the cp70hp?
     
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    I think the CX80 Raptor would be the best fit for the reel. The Centaur was actually originally made to be paired with a HXW Raptor 3spd.
     
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    I have a Shimano Tallus 7' 65-200... I had a MXL Raptor on it... too much pole for that reel, so I got the proper pole for that and I just ordered an HXW Raptor to put on the Tallus. I hooked a damn 70+ pound BFT on a friggin' Shimano Torium 20 with 30# Pline CXX w/ a Shimano Teramar 8' 15-40 rod and fought that beast for an hour before I lost him. Not enough juice.

    Oddly enough... I was yo-yoing a Salas 6x jr in mint green and he bit it. I saw him 3 times. He was on the surface about 20 yards out and took half my line. We did that 3 times and then he was gone. I was heartbroken. My biggest fish is 25#. A Dodo and an Amberjack in FLA. That would have been a personal best.
     
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    That was some good advice from Bill. If you are still undecided and can get to Bob Sands Tackle, contact Jamie (fishordie) and set a time to try out all these rods with your reel on his rail setup. About the only way to try before you buy short of borrowing one and catching a fish on it. He is all about matching the gear to the angler.
     
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    Next time you will be ready
     
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    I don’t live too far from bob sands so I am going to make it out there soon. I am l leaning towards cp70hp for the raptor and getting another setup for 80/100
     
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    I think the cp70hp is gonna be great on the raptor with 60#. Having something beefier for 80/100 will serve you well
     

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