How Should I Fish Krocs?

Brad I

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There’s been a bit of talk about Krocs on the board in the past couple of weeks. I picked up several Krocs when they stopped making the brass ones, from the 2-1/4 on up to the heavy 7 oz size. But I haven’t fished them much. That’s mostly because I realize that I really don’t know how to fish them.

So for you guys who have used them, how should they be fished? What size Kroc for what species and what technique? (Cast and retrieve, jig, surface, bottom, etc.). Are they better in certain locations or conditions?

TIA.
 
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Used to be the hottest yo-yo jig around down on the ridge back in the 70's. Never did much on the surface with them. Best all around size for long range used to be the 5oz. I've got 6 or 8 of them left from way back in the day. I'm going to have Fishdoggary convert them to single hookers and paint them up in wahoo colors. I can almost guarantee you that you'll be the only guy fishing them on a wahoo stop, important to me, having something no one else is using sometimes is the trick.

The smaller sizes (1oz.) work for everything local. I hammered to bonito all summer long along the Long Beach wall when it was to rough for my little boat out on the Horseshoe Kelp, bass like them too, hell, everything eats those things.
 
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I use them at yellowtail stops on long range trips or when fishing over reefs and structure on Baja panga trips. Generally I'll drop deep, usually hitting bottom and then normal yoyo technique. I have the best success when cranking at uber speed. I actually think the Krocs are behaving differently than they are designed for when going so fast. But fast is most effective. Most of my experience has them out performing other jigs and sometimes bait. I'm glad you bought some when they were more available. I look forward to trying some of my new to me heavies for wahoo when I can.
 
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    Everything eats the krock.

    I make a long cast and retrieve 5-10 turns then let it sink out again. Repeat this cycle and vary the sink time until you find the best depth and retrieve rate.
     
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    slow troll white seabass. or hang it in a rod holder and wait for a mackerel to grab it. it'll swim around in circles until a yellow or a WSB eats it. kayak, local skiff, or San Quentin.


    VERY effective,, thanks for the reminder
     
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    Brad I

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    Thanks guys.

    Any particular colors for particular species or uses? I was thinking that the mack pattern might work for yoyo. I fish party boats, so when I find a mackeral in the bait tank I'll try the mack on a Kroc idea, thanks.

    I've got some unusual 7 oz ones that are black with a red reflective tape kind of center, was thinking of those for gray light yoyo or maybe wahoo.

    I caught my first legal halibut by slow retrieving a small cream colored Kroc with soft pastel splotches over the bottom, I have no idea what it looked like down there, but it worked that particular time.

    Doesn't sound like a lot of tuna have been caught on them, but maybe might work cast and retrieve on schoolie yft?

    Keep the ideas coming!

    Thanks all.
     
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    Brad, I suggest using a rod and reel, but you could get away with a handline in a pinch....lol.

    Finding some new opportunities here, but I normally just cast out, let it sink, then wind to the boat. I have recently heard they are effective for Wahoo, so Zi will have to pack a few next time. Right now all of mine are hanging from my jig rack in the garage. Haven't fished any of them for a couple of decades.
     
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    hucklongfin

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    I caught a Wahoo on a Megabait so Krocs should work too.
     
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    Local tuna....medium Krocs are a better flat fall jig than the flat fall jig. Better movement on the retrieve too. Wahoo love the heavier. I've always use a slow to medium retrieve. Doesn't take much to get these to wobble.
     
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    mcrae

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    I don't believe color matters much. They often work on the drop or with a medium retrieve. If you retrieve them too fast they will flip over and cease to be as effective. I personally don't jig them or use them for lingcod as I think they are too expensive to risk on the bottom.However, anywhere you find fish that eat fish Krocs work.
     
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    tanner.s

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    The smaller ones (1-2oz), absolutely kill the bass, mackerel, skipjack, and especially the Bonito but will catch basically anything. I've caught rockfish on one cast and a yellow on the next. Awesome lure.

    For smaller surface species, vary the retrieve rate along the surface or let it sink out a bit and do a steady grind. For big fish, either just like a surface iron or fast yoyo.
     
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    here'smymule

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    Are you guys talking about Kroc shoes? I sure hope you are. I stopped fishing that lure when I put the spinning rod down and stopped fishing on the rocks at Redondo.
    And as for a certain "poster" who does not want me to mention his name- shame on you!
     
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    ^^Ok. The thread has made a turn. lol

    I use to use them and had great success on the bonita, and bass and cuda, and even got a striped bass rup in the delta on them when I was a kid. But I have never really used them in about seven eight years. And never caught any YT or tuna on them

    To the poster who mentioned using them for white Seabass. Thanks for the reminder. I have been meaning to try them for that.

    I have also thought they might work as flasher when bounce balling for butts?

    On a side note, based on comments here, if these krocs are the best thing since sliced bread and work on everything where are the pics of exotics with the krocs hanging out of their mout.....I personally rarely, if ever see people use them, and just based off reports on BD's, it appears to be be a forgotten jig, or lost art?
     
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