How much spectra for 50yd topshot on TranX 500 and 40NLD2?

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Getting ready to load up a TranX 500HG and a Fathom 40NLD2.

For the TranX: If I wanted a ~100yd topshot of 40lb Jinkai mono (approx, as I know not all 40 is same diameter) on top of Maxcuatro 80...
Any idea of how many yards of spectra to lay?

For the 40NLD2: If I wanted a ~100yd topshot of 50lb Jinkai mono on top of Jerry Brown hollow 80...
Any idea of about how many yards of spectra to lay?

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For the 40NLD2: If I wanted a ~100yd topshot of 50lb Jinkai mono on top of Jerry Brown hollow 80...
Any idea of about how many yards of spectra to lay?

Thanks!
It would be hard to estimate yardages. What I would do is err on the side of having more spectra & less mono. I would do it by eyesight - fill the fathom 40 until there is about one centimeter of spool radius left, then add the mono. If you end up with 70 - 80 yards mono, that is still a pretty long topshot by my definition. And of course, be sure that the spectra is put on very tight, especially the first 1/2 spool. It should be nearly rock-hard when you knock it with your knuckle. Hope this helps....
 
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On the Fathom, you could probably load braid to the uppermost ring or just above it, then add your topshot, and that will get you pretty close to your target. As noted above, a long mono topshot is not a good idea on the Tranx. One of the big advantages to using that giant baitcaster is the line lay with the level wind
feature. It makes casting far easier and you can max out the line capacity.
 
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I wouldn’t go with a long top shot on the TranX. I put 315 yds of 80# Maxcuatro on my TranX 500 with a 5’ leader of 50# for surface iron and bombs.
 
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Awesome info. I've never had much luck throwing iron with a short topshot, but I've never used a TranX before, so we'll see how that goes.

Anyone ever use a longer 40lb mono topshot on a TranX, even if it's only 25-50 yds?
 
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Awesome info. I've never had much luck throwing iron with a short topshot, but I've never used a TranX before, so we'll see how that goes.

Anyone ever use a longer 40lb mono topshot on a TranX, even if it's only 25-50 yds?
I haven’t, but I think your connection knot will annoy you—even the smallest knot is going to thrash your thumb. Like Hucklongfin said—the best way is to keep that connection knot outside the reel.
If you mess around with the brake weights a bit on a Tranx, you’ll find the sweet spot that makes casting pretty easy.
 
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I haven’t, but I think your connection knot will annoy you—even the smallest knot is going to thrash your thumb. Like Hucklongfin said—the best way is to keep that connection knot outside the reel.
If you mess around with the brake weights a bit on a Tranx, you’ll find the sweet spot that makes casting pretty easy.

I typically make my own wind-ons, so I was hoping for a layer of spectra, then a 50ft wind-on. I may just suck it up and master the FG knot, and try it with a 6ft leader. I really like having a longer piece of mono for shock absorption, but with a 9ft rod it may not be as big of an issue.
 
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Let me know if you need help with the knot
 
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Awesome info. I've never had much luck throwing iron with a short topshot, but I've never used a TranX before, so we'll see how that goes.

Anyone ever use a longer 40lb mono topshot on a TranX, even if it's only 25-50 yds?
Yes, casting sucks with a long topshot on a Tranx 500. Knots passing through the levelwind can hang up and cause a bird nest. The thickness of the mono going through a levelwind at an angle dramatically cuts distance as well.
 

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@bouttime : Lol, I'll take that help with the knot...if u ever get ur friggin' boat back on the water...

@KXKH : Everyone says this reel is easy to cast with straight spectra, so I'll try that route first. I just hate pickin' birds nest out of spectra, which is why I was going to try a longer mono topshot.
 
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My TranX 500 doesn't birdnest with 2 of the brakes on. Pretty much hands free operation with larger surface irons like the JRI 4 or bombs.
 
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I got 400 yds of solid j braid with plenty of room for a top shot and have another one with 500yds and shorter top shot.
 
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    What braid and lbs test are you using to get 500 yards on the Tranx 500?
    He has to be talking about the 40nldII.
     
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    The TranX setup is for lighter surface irons and poppers.
    I have another setup, using a 40nld2, for heavier irons and 50lb mono.
     
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    What braid and lbs test are you using to get 500 yards on the Tranx 500?
    You should get 500 yds of 50# Maxcuatro… but why would you want to? I have over 300 yds of 80# Maxcuatro with a 50# leader and have never been close to being spooled.
     
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    40NLD2 - i wouldnt do what u proposed. i think u wud get only 250 yds or less of 80 jb hollow if u filled 2/3 spool with it and saved room for longer top shot. imo not enough line.

    if u want to run longer top shot of mono for jigging and spare your fingers, i suggest 65lb solid braid or 60lb hollow as backing. that would be great for 50 lb top shot u want (i think u would get about 80 yds w last ring). i have one 40nld2 rigged that way. forgot total amounts i got on it, but it was ample. i also use that reel for yo-yo for jellos.

    or, spool it up with straight 80lb braid. will get about 400 yds depending on brand. you can tie 40-60lb flouro leaders. 10-20 ft leaders give quite a bit shock absorption.

    either of those options wud work well.
     
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    Casting any knot thru the level wind will be a really bad idea and be backlash central. So you have to either go all braid with short leaded or mostly mono so you aren’t casting thru the topshot
     
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    On a empty spool. Tie the length of mono on the spool and connect with spectra to fill. Have the line reversed at the shop on to a spool then on to another spool then on to the reel.
     
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    "Casting any knot thru the level wind will be a really bad idea and be backlash central. So you have to either go all braid with short leaded or mostly mono so you aren’t casting thru the topshot"

    Yeah, I forgot about that part of the reel, never having used a TranX before.

    "On a empty spool. Tie the length of mono on the spool and connect with spectra to fill. Have the line reversed at the shop on to a spool then on to another spool then on to the reel."

    I was thinking exactly that. Was just about to buy a line winder to make it happen.
     
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    A little bit of an old thread, but I'll add this.

    Buy a spool of big game (or whatever is cheapest) in the same diameter as your top shot.

    Fill the reel all the way with the big game and then pull off the same length as you want your top shot to be.

    Mark the spool were the line is and remove all the big game.

    Fill your braid to that mark and add your top shot.
     
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