Discussion in 'Fishing Chit Chat' started by steelonthefly, Oct 16, 2012.
Dead Heads on Boat = I will not fish it again. .
There is nothing more LAME than hearing man screams from a Dead Head, "Your on Me, Your on me, YOUR TANGLED ON ME!" Fucking Donkeys, looking good is half the battle.
Deadhead on a limited load is a big no-no for any of the boats that I fish.
5 deadheads!? That's major BS.
Even when I am a deadhead, you'll likely never know it. Most assume I'm crew on a day off. You'll see me rinse the boat, healp scrub, bag and even fillet fish.(most deadheads won't, but I'm a deckhand on other boats) I'm not in the troll rotation, usually don't have a number and rarely come aft of the gate unless I'm on a bigger fish.
One hippie is too many.
Just man up and tell the dead head whats up! That happened to me on a 3/4 day trip and I straight up called bullshit and made a big scene and told the captain to put this kid in check. The dead head was way cool after that, if you let someone walk all over you then why would they stop?
I too used to dead head. get on with a positive attitude, help people rig paying special attention to rental rods, stay out of the corners, help people gaff and tag if it gets busy, throw jigs on the bow more than bait fish, help clean, fish more, help clean, get really drunk and hit on girlfriends/wives of paying customers.
Maybe not that last part!
Unless you disclose the name of the boat and time, we all going to have the same experience.
What are you afraid of?
most deadheads know how to fish and are usually staying out of the way of the clueless mayhem that most guys complain about,following your bait is one thing but getting in the trolling rotation or pushing through people on the corner or stern is not something i ever did so i could keep a good relationship with the skippers i was doin business with,a discussion with any business minded captain should solve the problem, if not that boat doesnt deserve your business.
5 extra passengers on a limited load especially multiple days is way out of line and if nothing was said during the trip to quote george the pussification of america is near complete
Last cattle boat I was on (over 25 years ago) my jack pot fish (by at least 10lbs) disappeared from my bag. Never again.
I DH from time to time and when I do I tip really well, help out with the newbies and stay out of the way.....and generally do really well and if I don't who cares it was better than sitting at home.
Yeah that sucks. I deadhead sometimes and make sure to stay out of the paying guys way and help rig and grab fish from the rail. However if I were on a boat with 5 dead heads and I had paid a bunch of money, I would be super pissed and for sure would let them know that I expected a partial refund.
I thought you were leaving Buttercup?
Found his balls, I suppose.
Alright, I know how this is going to be received by the BD community but I am sure I am not the only one wondering, which boat? I am not trying to torpedo anyone's operation, however if these allegations are true it might be in eveyones best interest to name the vessel and give them the opportunity to respond. If there is indeed a problem with excessive deadheading maybe that operation could work to improve their business and customer relations. i believe as the people who pay to keep these vessels operating we deserve accountability. i would also wager that every sportfishing boat "we" patronize knows about BD and how to monitor their reputation.
I have no problem giving 2nd, 3rd or even 4th chances to an operation that realizes mistakes and strives to provide better service.
Yes I understand how difficult it is to own/operate a boat, but there are reasons why some fall by the wayside. All things being equal customer experience should not be one of them. In my experience in business customer service was one aspect I had absolute controll over.
Fire for effect!
I vote no. We still only have the op's version. Boat owners & Capt.s have better things to do than come on BD and defend every allegation.....The op can address this with the boat and their wallet in the future.
I don't really see an issue. As long as he was trolling in the middle and not the corners...
And didn't leave his troll rig unattended.
First, #1, help me out and better define the, what I can only assume is slang, term "Deadhead" as used in a party boat situation, in your own words please.
Second, #2, Do you think I would have asked my question, after the fact, if I knew enough to call the captain out on this B.S.?? And would you have "stirred the pot" and set a negative tone for the duration of the trip once the boat is underway??? It ain't gonna change at that point is it????
Third, #3, If there are 34 people in the galley, not including any of the crew, during the safety speech, who or what are these additional 5 people in your definition?
Fourth, #4, If 5 additional people sign the Manifest, below the number 29, and are not assigned a number... well refer back to question #3.
Fifth, #5, when all of the fish are laid out on the deck on the return home and the #34 has more fish than any one persons limit what is this indicative of??
The above list of questions is sincere, I am trying to gain an understanding of the protocol that is accepted among the fleet. Before I get too many of you fat or fatter on popcorn and beer!!!
This post was not angled at "slandering" any captain or boat and what I have stated I believe to be fact.
Footnote: The owner/captain was not on this particular trip.
I have been fishing partyboats for 5 years. Fly-fishing for 17 and started fishing over 30 years ago. Been on many overnight, 1.5 day, 2 day, 2.5 day, 3 day, 5 day, and 8 day trips. I have seen good and bad service, mostly good. I understand you get what you pay for and would love to know if I got what I paid for or did I get the shaft.
At this point, given the responses, I got the shaft and this is B.S..
P.S. The landing was called yesterday, stated this practice is unacceptable, and promised a return call yesterday or today...Still waiting to hear back.
Do a little leg work bro...Just search threads that I have posted and you will find one that references my excitement about heading out on this boat again from last week...
fished with you on shogun, you are a-ok in my book bro. good to point out such practice, as well as get some answers from those more knowledgeable imo.
...I am afraid of the Kraken, pirates, and Drug cartels...
...refer to my last post or PM me bro...
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