How long of a top shot?

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  1. Runway1

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    How long of a 25# top shot would you use for YT?

    How long of a 50# top shot would you use for medium tuna?

    Thanks all!
     
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    Some guys like to use 3-5 feet of top shot for bait and I use to be one of those guys. I know use about 50 feet of top shot for both yellowtail, tuna, wahoo etc. It’s really nice when the line gets frayed and you can cut 6-10 inches off and retie. Getting back in the water is key when the fish are bitting and you don’t wanna be that guy tying on another top shot when it’s going off.
     
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    If I was casting surface iron, I'd worried about casting and having the knot tick a guide. Wouldn't you want a good 150 ft (50yd) top shot to avoid that?
     
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    I use a 4’ leader for surface iron so the knot never goes through the guides. I use 25’ on my 100-130# rigs.
     
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    25 feet is what i use, gives me enough to tie on a few jigs without changing it out. I dont like casting with the spectra in the tip
     
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    I thought you were referring to bait fishing.
    As far as surface irons for yellowtail, poppers for tuna, I only use about a 4 foot top shop so it never passes threw the guides. I use 9&10 foot rods so I have plenty of leverage.
     
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    Ok, makes sense casting. Same for yo-yo or bait?
     
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    Yoyo yes, bait read my first post again. That’s what I do.
     
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    For “top shots”, I tie enough so that the mono to braid knot does not go thru the guides in my cast, about fifty yards.

    For jigging, or lobbing live bait, I just use 3-4 feet of “leader.”
     
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    If you can tie an FG or PR knot, you can make your top shot as long as you want. No problem going through guides
     
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    I go with a really long topshot for casting forgiveness (stretch) when casting irons/heavy lures. I lost way too many irons using a shory (3-4 ft) topshot when I backlash. Snap and off goes the iron.

    The only time I dont use a long topshot is for the kelp (kelp cutter set up) and when bottom fishing for sensativity purposes.

    If your specific to bait fishing I think you could go either way (long or short) depending on the knot you tie the best. Thick knot go short, and thin knot go longer.

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    Yeah, those $25 flat falls aren't what you want to lose often.
     
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    6-10 feet depending on how I am feeling. I see a lot of posts with issues of the knot going through the guides. My personal preference is that I do not go smaller than a 10 ring guide to mitigate the hang ups, some off the rack rods use the same, but if you go custom you can end with any size ring you want.
     
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    Yes. Or a little bit longer than you can cast.
     
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    After many years of braid to a couple of feet of flouro, I've settled in to about 20-30ft of mono before the flouro (if at all). For yellowtail fishing, I rarely bother with flouro. Just cut off and retie the mono. If they're biting, they're biting. Get a good bait and you'll get bit.

    For heavier stuff and tuna, I now very much factor in the rod type and fishing style. With stiffer, faster rods with more graphite I found myself pulling too many hooks with just spectra to short flouro. Now I'll throw on anywhere from 10 to 30 ft of mono depending on the rod. Also, for big tuna, I used to tie the spectra straight to the crimped flouro leader, but now opt for a 25yd wind-on of 150-200lb mono before the flouro leader (crimped both sides). Stretch can definitely be your friend.
     
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    just a bit shorter than the rod, so that when you cast, the knot is not going through the guides. 3-5'.

    But I agree with SaltH2Oangler.....not forgiveness if you backlash...SNAP.

    I fish both ways...50-150 foot top shot, and 3-5 foot. If I am fishing kelp, I like the short top shot...but I do fish both a long and short topshot.

    Casting jigs, I go 3-5', or at least 100-150 feet, again, so the knot does not pass through the guides.
     
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    For me, I like to have enough mono topshot for casting +, I like around 75 to 100 yards
     
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    I almost always use about 50 yards of mono top shot attached via the RP knot to my braid. I have zero issues tossing jigs or bait. I much rather cut off mono rather than keep losing braid to folks that don't want to follow their bait or fish.
     
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    I like longer topshot (25 yards) for bait and irons. I like 8-15 ft leaders for rockfishing. I feel I get bit better on longer topshot for bait.
     

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