Help with putting together a basic CRIMPER KIT (100-200lb mono)

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Never used PTFE for chafe guard but I am a plastics fabricator and I can tell you it is pretty tough. I agree with Gary questioning how flexible it is. It is a thermoplastic so you can heat it and bend it if that helps. Please let us now how it works for you.
my $11 question is how PTFE in that size bends and flexes ("pretty tough" is one criteria) - if PTFE tubing will bend-flex and hold-recover its circular form - or - kink on itself like a cheap garden hose and become useless for chafing

i should be able to determine that once i get the product in hand and give it a few sharp bends ... if it kinks and discolors from the stress that would rule it it out in a few seconds
 

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...Maybe something ... this:

Man that video...

It did introduce me to silicone tho - thanks for the info

Their product reminded me of the rubbery stuff used on my ‘70s wrist rocket sling shot

Anyone ever use silicon chaffing how did it hold up
 
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here is my my test of teflon PTFE chafe tubing:

materials:
  1. Jinkai 200lb mono (1.33mm OD) - it fit inside the tube a little loose
  2. PTFE teflon tubing (4mm OD) (2mm ID) - note this stuff is very hard - it doesn't bend easy, but i heated it with tap water and it went into position - to even the loop ends it was easier to trim them equal
  3. 250g flatfall
  4. 12oz torpedo sinker
method:

i pulled and jerked on it hard as i could for about a minute until the San Diego knot broke - i was stepping on the sinker, pulling at an odd angle when it broke

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CONCLUSION

there is promise here worth pursuing IMHO

the loop shows no visible sign of deformity to the mono


the tubing looks a bit bulky - it comes a size (1mm) thinner with same ID

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here is the business end freshly made (no pulling yet) - it would take a little practice to get this perfected - the PTFE is a little tricky to work with (this is the first one i tried)

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this close-up photo shows the stress loop with the line still threaded...

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photograph shows the loop with the mono removed - the tube shows some grooving from the mono at the stress point...

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here is the outer tip with mono removed...

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You should be crimping those long aluminum crimp three times with the pliers your using. A long time crew and master rigger once told me when I asked about using chafing gear said "if a tuna can break 200# IzorLine, he deserves to live".
Your teflon tubing doesn't look right either, take a piece of 200# and 300# leader down to Fry's and get the right size. Cut them about an inch long, no need for heat. After putting all the parts together (before crimping) melt the tag end with a lighter to form a ball. Pull snug to put the ball at the end of the crimp then crimp three times.
Something like this...300#

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thanks, i read your input very carefully and your rig certainly looks a lot more refined than my first attempt to test the stress point

but what's the ID and OD of your chafing tube, what material is it

>> Your teflon tubing doesn't look right either, take a piece of 200# and 300# leader down to Fry's and get the right size.

i went to Fry's and only found employees more clueless than myself on tubing - but i looked carefully in the tubing section and didn't see anything close to the teflon PTFE material (i really like its hardness) ... maybe with more information i could get the right chafe tubing material

>> You should be crimping those long aluminum crimp three times with the pliers your using.

i'm using Jinkai G size sleeves (approx .7" 17.75mm long) - i don't believe three crimps from a Jinkai Swedger SC-3C will fit

>> master rigger once told me when I asked about using chafing gear said "if a tuna can break 200# IzorLine, he deserves to live".

i would hate to lose my one shot at 250lb class tuna on a bad rig - and does the fish really live or die slow with a jig and a throat full of hooks lodged in its throat


>> Cut (the tube) about an inch long, no need for heat

i think we may be using different materials - i'm not sure - but the PTFE teflon tubing i used is very hard to bend around in a balanced loop, hot tap water helped - but it still feels like a trick and i'm pretty good with my hands

thanks again for your input
 
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