Help with 40# reel

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  1. jigsaurus

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    I'm looking for a 40# setup. I've been really interested in a fathom 30 star drag for its casting ability. But i recently read about how you've really gotta crank it down to achieve 15 lbs of pressure. Ive already got a fathom 30 ld2. But i cant cast it very far. Im open to a 2 speed lever drag if it has good casting ability. It's primary use would be for albacore and minimal so cal fishing. Maybe ill pull a couple 2 day trips per year and a 7-10 day long range trip per year.

    I'm also going to need a rod for it. I'm thinking about a calstar 6480 deckhand as my cheap option or a grafighter 800mh or 800h. I really don't have access to go and pull on these rods at a shop so I don't know how soft they are.
     
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    Id go with a Avet JX or a Valiant 500 or 600N I use my 600N for 50#

    For rods I wouldn't use the 6480 its more of a 30# rod. I have a Avet MXL on mine. Id go with something a little heavier
     
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    When you say you are having problems casting the 30ld2, what exactly is the problem? Casting flyline baits or lures?

    The fathom 25n size is perfect for 40, I use both the star and 2 speeds. I have no problem getting enough drag with the star drag reel.
     
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    MXL RAPTOR
     
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    MXJ Raptor or Fathom 25n
     
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    The Avet JX and a GG6480 is a 40lb combo that's hard to beat. Spool it with Power Pro and you'll be 100% American.

    BTW the JX casts very well.
     
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    I dont think Power Pro is made in the USA


    Edit: It is
     
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    PP is definitely made in the USA
     
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    I've got a MXL Raptor specifically for 40lb but really wouldn't want to sway you towards a lever drag for the NorCal Albie fishing. Your style of fishing up there is more chovies and dropping back lures, I'd for sure try to get a star drag reel first. If you want a reasonably priced star drag, don't overlook the Diawa Sealine series; they'll freespool for over a minute out of the box. That said if you're looking for an all purpose reel that can handle a fish that's a bit larger, then 2 speed it is.

    Re: rods, I've got both a Daiwa Proteus PRTB76HF (7'6" 20-50lb - less expensive) and a Seeker Hercules SHS70M (7' 30-60lb- more expensive) that fit the 40lb task.

    Both rods are insanely light, have major pulling power and each have caught bluefin up to 100lbs. You really can't go wrong with any of the rods/reels being mentioned so far.
     
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    No shit Its was my favorite line and now it just got a bit better
     
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    My 40# set up is a Torque 25N star paired up with an 8' Tilefish. I wouldn't hesitate to go with my 8' Monster either.

    A nice budget setup that will definitely put in work would be a Fathom 25N star and a matching Calstar rod. Those Calstars can be had pretty cheap here in the classifieds.
     
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    I can cast jigs no problem. But fly lining bait is another story. I was trying to practice with a 3/4 Oz weight and couldn't really get what I was hoping for
     
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    Why do you need 40lb for Albie's? Are you using mono? That's a lot of weight for chovies
     
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    What Eric above said......
     
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    I usually fish mono because it's more forgiving. But I was thinking about switching to 50# braid for this partiular setup and just changing top shot as necessary. I just have no experience casting with braid and don't want to set myself up for failure. Ive got a jigmaster with 25# mono for live bait that i use for albacore. This will be for mostly 2 oz swimbaits or 3-4 Oz metal jigs on the slide but I'd like to have it double as a 40# live bait rod.
     
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    Even though it's rated 30-60 ?
     
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    Picked up a Daiwa Saltist star drag(2018 model). Really impressed so far. Super smooth and casts really well. Great for the money
     
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    The Calstar 6480 is definitely a 40lb rod, Seeker also makes a 6480 and thats a 30lb rod.
     
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    If you do want a star drag reel, the Fathom FTH30 is a good choice for many techniques. You do have to tighten the drag firmly with 40-pound line, but its nothing any more difficult than with any similar-sized star drag reel.
    True that a Fathom lever drag won't cast quite as well as the star drag models, but they cast exceptionally well for a lever drag; as good or better than anything else out there.
    For casting anchovies specifically, the "30" size is a bit large [especially the lever drag], and if albies are your quarry the "15" size would be the ideal choice for 'chovy tossing.
     
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    Opinions vary. I used to use my Calstar 6480 as my 40# jig stick. 40# works well for me with jig or bait.

    Graphite and graphite composite rods are stiffer and don't bend as much as an all glass rod and so when comparing the two, the glass rods appear to be too soft. But not so. Just my opinion. I like all glass rods.

    As for the Grafighter rods, most guys recommend an 800H for 40#. I use an 800M. Why? Because that's what the owner of Calstar, Leon Todd, recommended to me many years ago.
     
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