Having fun without killing much.

Discussion in 'San Diego Long Range fishing Reports' started by Bill W, Oct 4, 2018.

  1. Bill W

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    On my last trip on the Supreme there were times when the skippies and small yellowfin were full on at the 23. And being used to the long trips I find myself not wanting that size, since I have all the fish at home. I used my 150# Izor on a 50 and fishing gumdrop size skippies for larger grouper. I clip the tail and deploy into the frenzy of small tuna.

    Here were the results...

    One honest grouper bite due to the scratch marks, that did not catch the hook.

    A couple of instant 12/0 7691 hook cut offs, larger model wahoo.

    A 30 second look at the largest black marlin I have ever seen that reared it's head out close to the boat. And while I tried to set the hook as hard as i could several times the skippie still connected to the hook came back. Still a huge thrill.

    What worked...
    When skippies are thick, always think of them as chum for bigger fish.
    Clip the tail fins and sink the bait with the current then work the bait back to the boat.

    What i will try next time...
    A very sharp hook, like a Jobu, in black to distract wahoo from targeting the hook and to stick in a marlin's bill.
     
  2. Baller

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    That is way cool...
     
  3. shellback

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    fwiw I installed jobu's on all my wahoo jigs with outstanding results
     
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    That sounds incredibe. Was this on the anchor? Did you do this every stop? How did the crew react to this during WFO bite?
     
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    albacore11 Member Intrepid 200# Club

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    Curious, what size Jobu did you go with? I am going to be making some bombs for next season and I have not decided hook size yet, thinking 8/0.
     
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    7/0. hook should be one third the total length of the jig. on a skirted jig, the hook should not extend past the total length of the skirt material
     
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    albacore11 Member Intrepid 200# Club

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    Thank you for your response, very much appreciated!

    A major reason I enjoy BD's so much is the willingness of so many members to share information and their knowledge; along with the entertainment value that so many posts provide.
     
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  8. Bill W

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    Alec was the one that suggested it. The Supreme has this mapping computer and when the boat swing on the anchor He would show me it is time to fish grouper. Unlike tuna, grouper are very spot specific. Alec would tell me what side of the boat to fish too... The crew was in to it also.

    I had zero tangles with any one. The skippie with the tail fins cut off pretty much vibrated the tail and sunk out straight. The passengers were happy to make bait for me.
     
  9. Steve K

    Steve K Hey, I'm gettin' bit...

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    Ah, the entertainment value, priceless. Great place to learn as well as an opportunity to share your own knowledge with those asking questions.
     
  10. wahoodad

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    Thanks for that Bill. I get all giddy like a kid the night before Christmas when we are hitting ridge spots that produce grouper.
    I fish almost like you, although I don't clip the fins on the skipjack or tuna at all. JMO, but they'll catch them.
    Early in my fishing, I saw one angler having a tough time catching a tuna, so I hooked and handed him one.
    Gosh, he was fighting that thing forever, and I knew it wasn't a big one.
    Yep, it came back, totally raked.
    From that point on, I flylined for grouper with zero fin or tail clippage.
    Another trip, some good ole boys from Texas saw me getting all excited about grouper fishing, said they'd show me how it's done. I said ok, I'm always willing to learn.
    They fished big bait, but on a giant sinker.
    Yeah, they got bit, but didn't stand a chance. They were rocked instantly.
    I love fishing them, but don't ever think I'll kill another one. Catch em, enjoy em, photograph em, let em go.
     
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    I found a way, it's right below this. Wild stuff, hand feeding them!
     
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    I used to scuba dive a lot in Baja in the 70's and 80's and saw massive grouper in the holes and rocks....and looked at them as wise old fish of the neighborhood I would return year after year and see the same fish.....the locals were always bugging me to spear them, never did ...I never fish for the giants....I will catch bait for others but something about killing a 100 year old fish doesn't appeal to me....maybe cause I'm almost as old...LOL
     
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    I use heavy line, land them quickly, and release unharmed. I ate one of the big ones once, wasn’t all that good, tough and rubbery.
     
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    We would probably taste like that too...LOL
     
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    I know I'd taste like $h*#, because I know I'm full of it.
     
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    Most of us are in that category....:D
     
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    I want to keep one. Then the rest can go free.
     
  19. Let em eat 74

    Let em eat 74 Well-Known "Member"

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    I’d probably just burn on the grill due to the alcohol content.

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    it was a hoot watching Bill work those bigger baits, I'd never seen that before. The man knows his stuff, and is more than eager to share. That freakin marlin was huge :D well done Bill...
     
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  21. Bill W

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    Talk to a cannabal... Taste like pork. Pigs eat anything.
     

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