Have the tides turned on coffee grinders?

kayakbeast33

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  • Mar 9, 2012
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    Hey BD recently purchased some passes to take the whole family on a 3/4. A little background... I have only taken my 16yo daughter out 3 or 4 years ago, she did fine and could probably fish with my lexa 400 no problem. My wife (who gets sea sick and hates sea food) has never been fishing and both my 7 and 8yos have only been fresh water fishing a few times but learned to cask lures at the lake. I have all conventional accurates aside from my lexa and mak20 and all uc rods mostly 8' and up. I was taught to fish by my uncle over 25 years ago on 1/2 day boats and coffee grinders where frowned upon and to this day I would personally NEVER own one for myself. However, given the younger 2's experience I wouldn't mind picking up coffee grinders combo for them especially since it may only be for a 1 time deal. If any of them take to it 🤞 (especially my beautiful wife) I would love to get them a custom gp that was appropriate as well as a valiant to go with it.

    Should I start them off right? I was initially planning on a level wind but then started thinking maybe if the stigma is gone a cg would be an easier first trip. Let me know if you all have any young ones on the water and how they started please.
     

    ZZZZZ

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    Beach fishing a spinner tomorrow. Carolina rig with gulp yeeewww

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    ZZZZZ

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    Surf perch worst nightmare!

    Love big knot headed barred surf perch, plate size. In so cal. Prego send it back for a leopard shark on another rig

    I live in Central America now. Very different
     
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    kevina

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    Like post #2 said, Make it easy as you can for them, Get them on spinners to start with, They will probably be throwing a fly lined bait further than 1/2 of the boat can cast!!
     
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    Brad I

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    Spinners today absolutely have their merits and place, but I wouldn't start a 7 yo on his first trip with one. A 7 yo on his first trip isn't going to be casting in any meaningful way no matter what, so casting ability isn't going to matter much anyway.

    I started my kids off younger than that with rockfishing. Nice, simple, drop to the bottom. For that, I used a Penn 310 GTI--a fine, cheaper level wind that did the job with a minimum of a learning curve and no need for t he kid to guide the line back onto the reel. Also, they could lay the rod on the rail and grind the fish in.

    Don't expect a newbie 7 yo to quickly pick up things like hooking bait, casting and following bait. Its also easy for them to feel intimidated standing shoulder to shoulder with a bunch of older, bigger people who seem to know what they're doing. Go rockfishing, pick a day with lots of tidal movement and good weather (re-schedule if the weather is up, a seasick day is not a good introduction to fishing). Use cheaper equipment so that if a rig goes overboard (it happens) there are no tears.

    KISS.
     
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    scott v

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    I’m sure you already know this but if you are taking the kids fishing it’s all about keeping them happy. Do not expect to do much solo fishing yourself. The joy is seeing them smile.

    I have 7 and 11 year old boys and they have both been on the water since the age of 5. I have switched between conventional and spinning with both. Conventional bigger fish and when fishing deeper water.
    The older one has learned to use conventional gear where my younger can drop conventional straight down but cannot cast. I have a 6ft St Croix spinning rod and 2500 size reel that he loves for tossing plastics and bait at the 3 B’s. I can leave him alone for the most part with that rod.
    I find myself fishing that rod with plastics a lot now just because it’s so much fun with the light gear.

    I have found they do best on their own with 6ft rods although they can handle 7 and 7’6” without issue. Sounds like you have nice gear so understand the rods will get laid on the rail often times not where you prefer.

    Have fun, it’s a blast especially if they enjoy it.

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    cozenone

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    I use both and prefer to use my levelwinds, my father broke me in on spinners also, (Many,many moons agO) ,:but I do have a goal to land a cow with my Stella set up on a popper, I know it's going to kick my ass, no laying the rod on the rail with this set up, I do have a shoulder harness for it.... if the opportunity comes up, personally I don't get the stigma on the west coast and spinning set ups, and really give two shits about it, The very most important thing , especially a for young angler take home with him, or any angler for that matter... is the experience and time we have doing it. almost 50 years ago, my father took me on my first sport boat trip, to this day it is burned into my memory bank like it was yesterday, stopping for squid, rolling around in the bunk, getting squished around at the rail, "at that time by giant fisherman,:)" ....glad your taking them out!! brings back all the memories of my father that has passed now, but these times will be remembered forever:), have a great time!
     
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    gecsr1

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    Nothing wrong with coffee grinders in past years on privates boats, I use spinning out fit shimano bait runner 4500 and 6' kunan rod... and use to out fish my friends with conventional setups....
     
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    My son’s first off shore experience was on spinning gear. He was 11. He already knew how to huck a lure a mile with that style of gear. He nosed hooked live bait, threw them out well beyond most of the boat, and ended up with a jackpot fish.

    Fish whatever you think will make for the best day. Hand off to them if you hook up. Ply them with sodas and goodies from the galley (or whatever mom made you pack), and enjoy it. The best days ever are those on the water with your kids.
     
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    dwaynesda

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    Its supposed to be fun for the little ones and backlashes are not fun. Sometimes they feel real bad when they messed up dads reel and it removes the joy. Spinning reels fix that problem. They are easy to understand and mostly trouble free. They will graduate to conventional gear soon enough. Have fun!
     
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    nefarious235

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    Its supposed to be fun for the little ones and backlashes are not fun. Sometimes they feel real bad when they messed up dads reel and it removes the joy. Spinning reels fix that problem. They are easy to understand and mostly trouble free. They will graduate to conventional gear soon enough. Have fun!
    And the fully grow'd kids too.
     
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    Amadeus

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    ...I was taught to fish by my uncle over 25 years ago on 1/2 day boats and coffee grinders where frowned upon and to this day I would personally NEVER own one for myself..."
    In the past, women and bananas on boats were frowned upon as well...why should you be bounded by the opinions of the 1/2-day peanut gallery from 25 years ago???

    Have taken these four along with my conventional line up on my annual 8-day:
    1. Daiwa BG 6500 (65lb braid, 30 & 40 lb top shots)
    2. Fin Nor LT100 (80lb braid, 50 & 60 lb top shots)
    3. Quantum Cabo 100 (100 lb braid, 60 & 80 lb top shots)
    4. Quantum Cabo 120 (100 lb braid, 80 & 100 lb top shots)
    The entire boat gets a kick every time I'm at the rail fishing "Florida-style" on a SoCal long range...I don't mind being the comedy relief. Every so often, someone does ask if they can try one of the spinners...it is the 21st century after all.

    You, however, may find yourself in a quandary if your wife suddenly asks for a complete line up of Stellas all spooled up with hollow core this Xmas...good luck.
     
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    You, however, may find yourself in a quandary if your wife suddenly asks for a complete line up of Stellas all spooled up with hollow cor
    $$$$$$$$, Can't turn down the wife, ay?
     
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    hucklongfin

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    My Twinpower 14k/Black Hole CCS 86N doesn't get maked fun of on 10 day trips. My Mak 20k/Black Hole CCS 80G doesn't either!
     
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    Hey BD recently purchased some passes to take the whole family on a 3/4. A little background... I have only taken my 16yo daughter out 3 or 4 years ago, she did fine and could probably fish with my lexa 400 no problem. My wife (who gets sea sick and hates sea food) has never been fishing and both my 7 and 8yos have only been fresh water fishing a few times but learned to cask lures at the lake. I have all conventional accurates aside from my lexa and mak20 and all uc rods mostly 8' and up. I was taught to fish by my uncle over 25 years ago on 1/2 day boats and coffee grinders where frowned upon and to this day I would personally NEVER own one for myself. However, given the younger 2's experience I wouldn't mind picking up coffee grinders combo for them especially since it may only be for a 1 time deal. If any of them take to it 🤞 (especially my beautiful wife) I would love to get them a custom gp that was appropriate as well as a valiant to go with it.

    Should I start them off right? I was initially planning on a level wind but then started thinking maybe if the stigma is gone a cg would be an easier first trip. Let me know if you all have any young ones on the water and how they started please.
    You could always rent set ups for them, that way if it doesn’t work out for what ever reason, you’re not stuck with the gear.
    I’m sure they’ll love a day on the water with dad regardless!
     
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    Shewillbemine

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    When I hear anyone talk shit about another person's fishing gear, all I'm hearing is "I'm stupid, insecure, and have nothing else going on in my life".
     
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    skrilla

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    If it's a one time deal or a once in awhile thing get them spinners as they have the easiest learning curve IMHO. If they make it through the day without frustration they might want to go back out sooner than you think.

    My kids only go once in awhile but I got them started on Tekotas and now Lexas. I adjust the casting brakes up so no worries about backlashes. Now I can't pry my Lexas out of their hands so I guess I need more gear.
     
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    stripedbizzle

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    I believe the want/ability to be able to cast conventional gear has to come within - it takes practice, i would go into my backyard and practice all the time from age 11-13 so i could be one of the cool guys in the bow .

    I know and have observed guys that try to figure it out as they go on their trips but in my opinion theres too much input from other anglers/rocking seas/yelling/excitement etc to digest why certain casts end up in backlash/line drives/snap offs etc

    idk if that has anything to do with the post at all - i guess what im saying is get them gear they can use now and any advancement after that should come from their own drive/improvement

    (i really honestly dont think casting conventional gear is that difficult , but learning to do it correctly, effectively + consistently takes a very modest extra effort that for whatever reason 90% of anglers on this coast dont like to put in.)
     
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