Haseko Owes all the People of Hawaii a Marina (Ewa Marina)

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  1. Pbustam

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    http://honolulu.craigslist.org/oah/boa/2708015873.html


    Haseko owes the Federal Government a Marina - In itsapplication for Federal (Army Corps Permit) Haseko said they would build themarina at no cost to the Federal or State Government.<?xml:namespace prefix = o ns = "urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:office" /><o:p></o:p>

    Haseko owes the State of Hawaii a Marina - In itsapplication for rezoning agricultural land to residential, Haseko said theywould build the marina and provided a time-table.<o:p></o:p>

    Haseko owes the City and County of Honolulu a Marina - Inits application for rezoning agricultural land to residential, Haseko said theywould build the marina and provided a time-table.<o:p></o:p>

    Haseko promised a Marina that would lessen trafficcongestion on Fort Weaver Road and provide 1,500 jobs in the maritime complex.<o:p></o:p>

    Contact your elected officials to demand Haseko provide themarina as promised in return for permits and rezoning agricultural land.<o:p></o:p>

    In 1993, the City and County approved re-zoning for the"Ewa Marina Project".<o:p></o:p>

    Now Haseko wants to eliminate the Marina and leave a gianthole in the ground behind. But not just any hole. They are going to wrap thisone in a nice box with a big ribbon on it and call it a Recreational Lagoon. Theysay they are going to pump fresh water into it to maintain water quality. Whois going to pay for the electricity? Are they going to raise homeownersassociation fees to pay for this and any clean-up or stinky mess in the future?This idea is not in keeping wiith energy or water conservation and no selfrespecting environmentalist or Government Engineer would support this waste ofresources when we could have a sustainable open Marina. With the channel entranceopen, the rise and fall of the tide will bring fresh oxygenated seawater intothe marina along with a myriad of marine life. Anyone who has been swimming inthe KoOlina Lagoons (open to the ocean) can tell you about the O'io, Mullet,Papio, Moi, Weke and other sea life they see when they snorkel there. When opento the ocean, Ewa Marina would serve as an excellent breeding area for alltypes of creatures. A closed lagoon will serve as a breeding ground forbacteria, viruses and other unwanted creatures.<o:p></o:p>

    Haseko received permit approvals based upon its statementsand promises in its permit applications. In Haseko's application for rezoning,dated August 1992, they state:<o:p></o:p>
    In section V Development Sequencing, page 52, that in years4 to 6 they will construct Dry Stack boat storage, boat launching ramps, andother waterfront industrial facilities.<o:p></o:p>

    In section VI Social Impacts, page 55 they state that themaritime complex will generate 1,500 jobs. Also that "This employmentcenter will be important in reducing the number of residents having to commuteto Honolulu for employment.<o:p></o:p>

    In section VI Social Impacts, they state "Applicantwill be providing the on-site infrastructure and will be contributing to theoff-site infrastructure."<o:p></o:p>

    The U.S Army Corps Permit to excavate the Marina was issuedJune 28, 1993. Approval was based upon the finding of no significant impactFONSI in the Final EIS.<o:p></o:p>

    In the Final EIS:<o:p></o:p>
    Haseko states that if the permit is granted:<o:p></o:p>

    Page S--1, "The Marina would (plural of will) beconstructed in conjunction with the Haseko Ewa Marina residential/commercialdevelopment.<o:p></o:p>

    Page 1-1, "The Marina would be constructed byexcavating 120 acres of waterways and berthing basins inland of the shorelineand would provide berthing for approximately 1,400 boats. This privately fundedproject would substantially satisfy the current public demand for recreationalberths at no cost to the Federal or State Governments. <o:p></o:p>

    The proposed marina would also serve as a major recreationalammenity for onshore development and would enhance the potential sales value ofthe development project."<o:p></o:p>

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  2. tony489

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    Bunch of bullshit! Build the marina!
     
  3. Yelfin22

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    When I was looking into buying a home at Ocean Pointe , one of their selling points was the marina. Now they want to put more money into their pockets and they think the people will sit back....wrong answer. I was very close to purchasing a home their and the only setback was the parking within the development. Better get our Coucilman Berg on this.
     
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    Look at the other aspect: If they did build the marina, they would have to dredge a channel 100 yards wide through the reef.

    If anyone recalls, when Ko Olina dredged the reef for its marina and coves, the surrounding shoreline was buried in deadly silt for miles. And the adverse effects lasted for years.

    So you want a marina? The tradeoff is wrecking the littoral waters for a very long time. If you think there's no fish now, try killing off everything with a massive blanket of silt for a year.

    Instead, hammer Ko Olina. They have a contract with the state, and some fishermen managed to force the matter through the courts. Ko Olina has been legally compelled to restore the boat ramp facilities they demolished. The problem now is that there's no compelling timetable.

    If anyone wants to push things, push Ko Olina toward making the boat ramps -- and the associated support facilities such as parking and washdowns -- as they promised. They promised public access in exchange for the damage they did to inshore waters. They need to live up to the contract.
     
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    Looks like more HANABULLCRAP to me, thank god I neva vote for her!
     
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    what a bunch of crap, i'm on my 2nd home in ocean pointe and i bought there for the marina in hopes of running a charter out of there when i retire. What a bunch of scumbags.
     
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    Is this the same as the BS Ihilani or Ko Olina that promised to build a small boat harbor for the city and use of the public in exchange for development permits -- and now "substituted" the Phoencians' commercial ramp with all kind of restrictions on use and other bs.

    They put all kind of restrictions -- you have to sign up - get your boat "inspected" - you have to put them on your insurance -- you have to this and that and only these hours or your truck get towed etc. - basically don't use our ramp bc you're not wanted even tho spose to be public ramp.

    I'd say someone owes us a bunch of ramps with no restrictions on use.
     
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    Can someone get all the details and post the e-mail for the governor and all the legislators - we need to pressure our representatives to make Ko Olina meet their obligations (no towing, no permit, no inspection, etc) - maybe Abercrombie governor will come down on big business unlike Linda Lingle who would not.
     
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    here was the original master plan http://www.ocean-pointe.com/proposedmasterplan.html

    here is the star article http://www.staradvertiser.com/busin...leted_from_Ewa_Beach_resort.html?id=133291838

    A marina in Ewa Beach planned as part of the Ocean Pointe and Hoakalei Resort communities had been dramatically downsized and reconfigured a few times in the last 30 years, but now it's slated for elimination.
    Developer Haseko (Hawaii) Inc. plans to convert its 54-acre Ocean Pointe/Hoakalei marina site between White Plains Beach and Oneula Beach Park into a recreational lagoon with no surface connection to the ocean.
    The decision was largely based on a lack of demand for market-priced boat slips and the cost to excavate a channel, the company said.
    Though Haseko already dredged the marina interior and constructed jetties, the company said it couldn't justify further investment connecting the area to the ocean with a channel roughly 300 feet wide, 1,500 feet long and 20 feet deep.
    Haseko said the change to a recreational lagoon will allow the company to fulfill the general vision for its $1.4 billion waterfront community sooner while opening the area to wider public use.
    "Creating a lagoon enables us to achieve our long-held vision of a vibrant waterfront community in a more timely and efficient manner," said Sharene Saito Tam, a Haseko vice president.
    Lagoon features would include crescent-shaped sandy beaches, a canoe hale, an amphitheater and a floating pedestrian bridge, according to a conceptual plan.
    Activities in the brackish water would exclude motorized equipment but include swimming in a shallow area as well as canoeing, kayaking, stand-up paddleboarding and sailing in deeper areas.
    Other elements of the plan include a mile-long path between the lagoon and the ocean, commercial space renting watercraft, restrooms, showers and about 150 to 200 public parking spaces.
    The marina channel was a source of contention for some, including the Office of Hawaiian Affairs, which years ago argued against it because it would affect traditional shoreline activities of Native Hawaiians.
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    Tesha Malama, a 41-year Ewa Beach resident, said some boaters will be disappointed along with fishers who looked forward to slips and a public boat launch ramp that were planned along with the marina, but that the conversion to a lagoon is beneficial to the broader community.
    "I think you'll have more of the general public users," she said. "The change will be better for the greater community."
    Local economist Paul Brewbaker of TZ Economics said in a report Haseko commissioned that the lagoon will benefit the developer as a resort amenity but that the public benefit will be greater.
    "(Haseko's) intention to provide extensive public access to its lagoon, promenade, cultural and archaeological sites and to integrate its shoreline reaches with a continuum of beachfront park and recreational opportunity stretching from Oneula Beach Park in Ewa Beach to White Sands Beach in Kalaeloa is uniquely an attempt to privately produce a public good, for the benefit of the community and for the enhancement of the resort's commercial and activity-oriented businesses," Brewbaker wrote in the report.
    The envisioned change is among the biggest for the 1,100-acre master-planned project initially proposed in 1979 by Colorado-based MSM & Associates which sought to create a community built around a marina with branching waterways like Hawaii Kai.
    The original project, long known as Ewa Marina, gained a key approval from the state Land Use Commission in 1984, allowing development of up to 7,200 homes around a marina with 2,500 boat slips and 8.5 miles of waterways.
    Haseko bought the property and development entitlements in 1989 for the project that by then called for 1,500 slips in a marina still similar to Hawaii Kai's, along with about 5,000 homes and a 27-hole golf course.
    Construction began in 1997. In 2001 Haseko amended its master plan to reduce the size of the marina from 120 acres to 70 acres by eliminating an inland basin in conjunction with redesigning the golf course with 18 holes.
    Later, Haseko cut the number of boat slips to between 600 and 800 on 54 acres.
    The marina is one of three commercial pieces of the Ocean Pointe/Hoakalei community yet to be realized. Haseko has built about 3,500 of 4,850 homes, and the Ernie Els-designed golf course opened in 2009. Still to be developed are 950 units of hotel or time-share accommodations and a complex with retailers, restaurants and other businesses.
    Saito Tam said there is no timetable for the visitor accommodations or commercial complex. She said the west side of the lagoon next to an archaeological and wetlands preserve could be open by the end of 2015 if permits and environmental approvals are obtained.
    Some issues that will need to be examined in an environmental assessment or impact statement include water circulation and storm water drainage.
    The lagoon's brackish water circulates naturally through porous rock below but would be enhanced by pumping ground water into the lagoon from a new well to refresh the lagoon four times a day, Saito Tam said.
    The marina was to serve as an outlet for 10-year flood drainage. Saito Tam said Haseko plans to add more retention ponds on the golf course to catch runoff along with a couple of ponds next to the lagoon.
     
  10. Sonny96706

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    It appears that rep pine is also supporting the change. This really sux!!


    http://www.capitol.hawaii.gov/memberfiles/House/Pine/newsletters/November 2011 Newsletter.pdf

    A [FONT=Calibri,Calibri][FONT=Calibri,Calibri]recreation area at Hoakalei Resort [/FONT][/FONT]is also coming to [FONT=Times New Roman,Times New Roman][FONT=Times New Roman,Times New Roman]‘[/FONT][/FONT]Ewa Beach. The family-friendly lagoon will be open to the public and give residents more opportunities to play and exercise close to home.

    The new plans include a protected swimming area, facilities for kayakers, paddlers and canoe clubs, and a pathway for pedestrians.

    Community feedback has been positive as residents are looking forward to a new option of staying within the community to play and exercise with their families.

    The swimming area, designed for all ages, is expected to be completed in 2015.
     
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    Be glad the dredging isn't going to happen.

    If the nearshore environment gets wrecked, what do you think happens to the pelagics?

    Pelagics feed on opelu and akule. Where do they come from?

    The nearshore environment is critical to the entire fishery of our state. When people ask "where's da fish?", the answer is "where's the habitat?"

    There used to be huge runs of mullet and other fish associated with the littoral zones prior to 1960. They're gone. That loss is linked to the condition of other fisheries.

    Find out what killed off the mullet runs. Learn about how "WAIanae" got its name.
     
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    Write to your state senator and representative -- in this day of google and e-mail it is easy to find out who represents your disctrict and there is no excuse for failing to make your views known -- write now. Remember it is your STATE Gov. representatives -- not the ones we send to Washington.
     

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