Guadalupe Island reels

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Thanks for the props, Captain Aaron Barnhill on the Shogun!



"If you are in any of the upcoming trips make sure you bring the right gear. Two speed reels are a must! No short whippy fiberglass rods. An ideal setup would be a Penn Torque 40 loaded with 80# spectra and a 6.5-7.5 medium heavy or heavy rod rated to fish 50-80# line. That would be your 60# Flurocarbon setup. Next size up would be a Penn International 16 or comparable with 100# spectra and a 6-7 foot rod rated to fish 60-100 for your 80# Flurocarbon. Bring a 100# trolling outfit for fishing the dropper loop and plenty of 16-20 oz sinkers. Any questions about gear email [email protected] and I will do my best to get back to you. -Captain Aaron"
 
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How would the 16vsx work for both applications with 80lb hollow and switch loop to loop leaders as the grade of fish or bite change.
 

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How would the 16vsx work for both applications with 80lb hollow and switch loop to loop leaders as the grade of fish or bite change.


There is a definite difference in the spool weight between a 40N and a 16, using the 40N allows you to get your sardine "way out there" much more easily and quickly.
 
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I fished there last October on a RS 10 day. Used my 16VSX 100# hollow with 80# mono (no need for flouro) no problems getting the bait "out there" stayed hooked up all day.
 
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I have a 16 vsx I fish with 60lb. Will it fish 80lb with good free spool or do I need to send it to Cal Sheets? I want to respool it with 100lb if it's good to go now.
 

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I have a 16 vsx I fish with 60lb. Will it fish 80lb with good free spool or do I need to send it to Cal Sheets? I want to respool it with 100lb if it's good to go now.



The reel fishes 80-pound topshots with good freespool straight out of the box.
With 100-pound, the drag curve ramps up very quickly, taking away some of the fine gradients of adjustability. Aftermarket work can make a smoother curve.
However, the inherent strength of the system: gears, anti-reverse dogs, frame, etc can easily handle 100 pound topshots.
 
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I spent some time at the 2017 Fred Hall how with captain Russ Brazwell of the Shogun, fine-tuning his tackle recommendations specifically for Guadalupe Island trips. Here they are.


SHOGUN GUADALUPE ISLAND ROD & REEL COMBO RECOMMENDATIONS

1. 40-POUND LIVE BAIT COMBO


Reel- PENN Torque 2-speed TRQ30LD2, PENN Fathom FT30LD2 [80 pound braid backing]

Rod- Conventional 7 to 8-feet, rated for 30-60 pound mono lines

Applications- Line shy smaller tuna, catching bait

2. 50-60 POUND LIVE BAIT COMBO

Reel- PENN Torque TRQ40NLD2, PENN Fathom FTH40NLD2 [80-pound braid backing]

Rod- Conventional 7 to 7.5-feet, rated for 30-80 pound mono lines

Applications- Live bait yellowfin tuna 100-150 pounds

3. 60-POUND JIGGING COMBO

Reel- PENN U.S. Senator 113N, PENN Torque 2-speed TRQ40NLD2, PENN Fathom FTH40NLD2

Rod- Conventional 7-feet, rated for 40-80 pound mono lines

Applications- Yo-Yo jigging for yellowtail and tuna

4. 80-POUND LIVE BAIT COMBO

Reel- PENN International 2-speed 16VISX

Rod- Conventional 7-feet, rated for 50-100 pound lines

Applications- Larger grade tuna to 150 pounds-plus

5. 100-150 POUND DROPPER LOOP COMBO

Reel- PENN International 2-speed 20VISX or 30VISX; 100-plus pound braid and 50-150 feet of 130-pound mono

Rod- Conventional 7-feet, rated for 80-150 pound lines

Applications- Heavy-duty dropper looping for yellowtail
 
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Quick questions...I have never done a trip like this. Why in the world do you need such a heavy outfit for yellowtail? What is "Heavy-duty dropper looping"? Thanks.
 

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Heavy-duty dropper looping is because the fish are strong and close to structure where they will try to break you off. You need heavy line and high drags to get them away from the bottom before they can take you to the house.
 
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Quick questions...I have never done a trip like this. Why in the world do you need such a heavy outfit for yellowtail? What is "Heavy-duty dropper looping"? Thanks.
Because you have to fish with the drag buttoned all the way down and not give the fish an inch. The yellowtail down there are a different breed of fish then what you catch up here or along the coast in Baja
 
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Because you have to fish with the drag buttoned all the way down and not give the fish an inch. The yellowtail down there are a different breed of fish then what you catch up here or along the coast in Baja
The ones in the sea of Cortez, fight pretty good to.
 

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Because you have to fish with the drag buttoned all the way down and not give the fish an inch. The yellowtail down there are a different breed of fish then what you catch up here or along the coast in Baja
You don’t want to get “rocked”. Those are Jurassic Yellowtail down there. I got my ass handed to me my first time there this year. Guadalupe was always my dream and I was humbled big time. I’ll be back! I have been working in a very particular set of skills. I will find them and I will kill them.
 

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There are also large adult BSB and Grouper on the bottom.

On a charter trip some years ago, one of our guys lost a big fish, BSB or Grouper, that he hooked on the dropper loop with his trolling rig at mid day. He had it on for probably about an hour, and never got it off the bottom. And he is a decent sized guy! Some deckhands even thought he was snagged on the bottom, but the bottom doesn't swim.
 

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Where would 12VISX fit in a Guadalupe arsenal?


The 12VISX is the same line capacity as the 40NLD2's, but has a heavier frame.
It is more of a true 80-pound reel, while the 40N's are more 50/60/80.
If you already have a 12VISX, it will also handle 60-pound [or even 50-pound] work just fine, but if you are looking to purchase, the fish have not been hitting 80-pound that well lately, so the TRQ40NLD2/FTH40NLD2 would probably be the better choice.
 

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As I look at the suggested reels I also see a lot of Posts showing people using the Torque 15XNLD with nice size fish from Gaudalupe. I think the suggested tackle should also include tackle for those days when the bite is finicky.
 
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As I look at the suggested reels I also see a lot of Posts showing people using the Torque 15XNLD with nice size fish from Gaudalupe. I think the suggested tackle should also include tackle for those days when the bite is finicky.
I used one on my last trip and landed an 80lb+ fish on it with no problem. Great little real which is perfect as a 40lb finesse reel there
 
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