Grouper

COSDoug

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Never caught one. I'm going on an 8 day in about a month. I'm guessing we'll go to the Ridge where I've recently seen pictures of Grouper. Anybody have a specific way to target them? One more question... I've read the big ones are not as tasty as 'smaller' ones, what's the cut off point where you might think about releasing the fish?
Thanks in advance.
Doug
 

wahoodad

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Have your biggest outfit ready with a big j hook, like 10/0 7691, or larger. Catch a skipjack or small tuna, and flyline it on your large outfit. A small yellow will work as bait in a pinch, and a scad is a pretty good bait.
The key is flyline. Dropper loop, you have zero chance of landing those denizens of the deep.
Personally I'd release anything over 60 lbs. I had 130 pounder, and it was grainy and tough.
They will release fine, we release blacks often at the local islands, push them down with a deck brush, eventually they swim down.
 

StillinScrubs

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Fish off the bottom at least 10 feet. Make the grouper come up to take the bait so it isn't able to get back to a hole. Full drag and wind like you would for wahoo. Keep its head going towards you.

Under 50lbs or so should be good quality meat.
 

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Have your biggest outfit ready with a big j hook, like 10/0 7691, or larger. Catch a skipjack or small tuna, and flyline it on your large outfit. A small yellow will work as bait in a pinch, and a scad is a pretty good bait.
The key is flyline. Dropper loop, you have zero chance of landing those denizens of the deep.
Personally I'd release anything over 60 lbs. I had 130 pounder, and it was grainy and tough.
They will release fine, we release blacks often at the local islands, push them down with a deck brush, eventually they swim down.
I was on the excel many moons ago, somewhere down by the ridge on a spot of yft and as you said some leopard grouper were feeding on skippies. Three of us caught them on macs a 80,90 a 100lber. Mine was the 90 and it was tasty.
 

matrixx611

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Have your biggest outfit ready with a big j hook, like 10/0 7691, or larger. Catch a skipjack or small tuna, and flyline it on your large outfit. A small yellow will work as bait in a pinch, and a scad is a pretty good bait.
The key is flyline. Dropper loop, you have zero chance of landing those denizens of the deep.
Personally I'd release anything over 60 lbs. I had 130 pounder, and it was grainy and tough.
They will release fine, we release blacks often at the local islands, push them down with a deck brush, eventually they swim down.
I thought they are bottom dwellers. So why flyline?
 

carterantebi

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I thought they are bottom dwellers. So why flyline?
I would assume you want a good amount of weight to get it down there. The thought of using a yellowtail or tuna as bait is just insane.
 

StillinScrubs

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I would assume you want a good amount of weight to get it down there. The thought of using a yellowtail or tuna as bait is just insane.
On the ridge at night the boat will often have lots of small (<10lb) yft hanging around. I've had ~5lb yft skinned by grouper simply because I couldn't get the hook in the buggers mouth. Good fight while it lasted and I was coming back from cowtown so I know it was a big fish.

Take scissors or pliers to the tail to slow him down.
 

raw66

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This comes as a surprise. So David those brown rockfish grouper looking type fish down at Clarion are just that "rockfish" and not officially grouper. Guys on the boat were calling them groupers and high 5s were going around?. Maybe they are just a brown type of rockfish because they didn't resemble groupers yet I swore that's what guys were calling them?
 
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Steve K

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My only Grouper was about 58 lbs, a Broomtail. Dropper Loop, 80 Ln mono, Sardine. After the first few seconds when it tried to get back to the bottom, not much of a fight. In fact, halfway up it just floated to the top. Good eats!
 
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dgeller5

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Just off of Shermans six day on the Indy. We had around twenty grouper. Most came on sardines with a small (1 oz or so) weight to get below the birds. I got a 42 and a 19. Biggest was 44. Mine were on 40 lb
 

Bill W

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At Clarion out in deeper water there are Tan Grouper. Shallow water you catch leatherback grouper.
 
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Loudmusic

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I was on the excel many moons ago, somewhere down by the ridge on a spot of yft and as you said some leopard grouper were feeding on skippies. Three of us caught them on macs a 80,90 a 100lber. Mine was the 90 and it was tasty.
Would have to be either Broomtail or Gulf Groupers. I big leopard is in the 40# range with average loser to 10#.
 

wils

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This comes as a surprise. So David those brown rockfish grouper looking type fish down at Clarion are just that "rockfish" and not officially grouper. Guys on the boat were calling them groupers and high 5s were going around?. Maybe they are just a brown type of rockfish because they didn't resemble groupers yet I swore that's what guys were calling them?
This brings up another seldom acted upon fishing law:
If the angler can not specifically ID the fish that he/she caught with its scientifically designated name, it has to be released.
 

Bill W

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This brings up another seldom acted upon fishing law:
If the angler can not specifically ID the fish that he/she caught with its scientifically designated name, it has to be released.
Really Wils? i would like to see that fishing law...
 

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