Discussion in 'San Diego Long Range fishing Reports' started by terrace, Sep 22, 2016.
Lugs or plugs and why
I like to set up my big reels with one lug on the right side and the plug on the left. That way I can palm the reel without the lug digging into my hand, but still have a lug if it is needed. I learned that one from some of the more experienced cow fisherman out there.
I think if you have an HX Raptor or bigger no need for lugs. Atleast that is how I am setup...
My .02, your mileage may vary...
I do the same as Connor on reels where it might be a possibility of being spooled by a big fish and the boat's back up rig needing to be deployed. A lug on the right coupled with a reel clamp with a ring gives a place for the back up rig to be clipped on. Plug on the left allows you to palm the reel on that side without the lug poking your palm.
I fish the rail and am right handed. If you fish the rail and there is no worry of being spooled, no need for lugs unless you fish a harness.
No backup rig while fishing the island. At least, that is my belief.
I have my Mak 20s with one lug on the right. I have my big reels, Mak 50s and 50Ws with two lugs.
I do the same thing as Conner with the lug for right side only. Instead of a harness, I use a Magpul convertible sling to clip in if needed.
Thanks 1 lug it is
If you use the rail, you don't need any lugs. Why? Because:
1. You will more than likely not get spooled at Guadalupe if you are using the correct gear. If not, and your equipment is too light, the crew will be reluctant to hook up a back up rig.
2. If you do need a back up rig, the spool will be empty, so that a premade strap can be wrapped around the back cross bar of the reel and the back up rig can be attached to the strap. This is the way the crew of the American Angler does it.
If you get spooled at Lupe either:
A: you have the wrong set-up
B: too light of a drag
C: you're a p***y
You won't get spooled at the Lupe fishing 60 or better nowadays, back when the monster bft were there it was a real possibility. I saw several guys get spooled but never saw anyone hook a back up and throw a rod and reel over , first you didn't have the time to hook it up and second your chances of getting your rig back were slim.
I was there in November and December. Saw a couple of people get spooled using 40lb and 50lb but none on 60 or 80. Never heard any talk about a backup rig. When people were getting spooled they just applied all the drag they could and put a big bend on the rod and held on. If you got spooled or broke off you just grabbed another rod and hooked a fresh one. Why throw an expensive rod and reel into the ocean for a 125lb fish when you could have easily landed it if you used the proper outfit in the first place. When you have 15 or 20 fish going at the same time you have tons of 4 and 5 way tangles, I can't imagine the mess if there was a rod and reel in the water wrapped around all those lines.
A: Think I got the setups covered ,raptor ,predator, 655xxh ,mak 16 sea ,rebuilt avet 4/0pro ,andros 15 ,avet hx
B: I'll have crew check the drag
C: might be a problem , you are what you eat
In GENERAL I agree with this, but you can't be completely sure what's going to happen. 2-3 years ago at Hurricane Bank, I was fishing the kite, and I very nearly got spooled. The rod was a UC Gladiator, the reel was a Makaira 50W II SEa, and my drag was set to 40lbs. The fish took off like a bat out of Hell, and peeled some 400+ yards off my set up...which probably already some 400 yards out on the kite. When that run ended, the fish swam all the way to the boat like a little pussycat...until it got up and down. Then it turned mean again. But I had the right rig, and it came in the boat pretty quick.
Here's the thing: the fish weighed 150lbs.
Yes, that first blistering long run whipped it, but it did have the moxy to make that run, against a beast-killer setup and a ton of drag. I've had a couple of really experienced anglers tell me a version of the same thing: when a good tuna wants to pull drag, you can't stop it. The fish may well kill itself, but it has the strength to pull the line off the reel, and only the fish can decide when it has run far enough.
I would go with the mak 16 that thing can handle big really big fish
Reading this with interest. I am thinking of acquiring a rig with a Talica II 25 reel for battle at the 'Lupe. Should such a real cover it there? I've got a Talica II 16 already.
All it takes is money...
A friend of mine had 2 big Tallicas fail on him the same trip, on big fish. He sold them both even though one was a gift from his wife.
Shimano supposedly addressed the issue that made his anti reverse fail, but he didn't have confidence in those reels anymore.
Get a mak 16 or 20 or both what the hell ifs only money
That's interesting. First I've heard of that reel having issues. I have seen a couple Avets self-destruct, but mine has held up well. Not heard of the Tallicas having an issue. Thanks.
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