Gaffing stingrays to be released

AirAndSea

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What is the safest way to remove a hook from a ray without the risk of getting stung? When I’ve caught them I usually just cut the line as close to the hook as possible.
 
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Omarkayak

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Juvenile GWs think batrays are tres yummy. And stingers in the roof of their mouths to prove it.

Shame to gaff anything you plan to release.

Good fishin’!
BDC OK
 
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Carl

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    What is the safest way to remove a hook from a ray without the risk of getting stung? When I’ve caught them I usually just cut the line as close to the hook as possible.
    Lay them on their back and do what's necessary to avoid spines.
    If I'm barefoot surf fishing drag em up on the sand and flip them. Keep feet and hands at nose end. Pin em down with left hand and remove hook with right or cut line if that's better for the fish.

    On a boat with bigger model bat Ray's sometimes you have to use the gaff to flip them over so you can dig the treble out of their mouth if you pinned squid on a jig.
    If it's a bait hook usually its a line snip.

    I've released hundreds of Ray's and would guess I've killed zero to 5.

    The safest thing to do for me would be to cut the line and sacrifice the jig. I dont think I've ever done that in spite of my strong desire to not be an hour or more from the dock at 2a.m.
    Stung by a ray.
    But, I'm not gonna let it suffocate by a hook closing it up. That's certain death and a pussy move imo not trying to give it the chance to survive.

    Ain't no way you are getting a bigger model bat ray in and out of a net safely and my clique tends to have big nets on board.
    If it's small enough a ray and I think I can pull it off sure.

    If on occasion my best efforts have resulted in a dead ray it did it's part in the food chain as nature intended.
    It will be eaten instead of another creature that day by whatever it feeds.

    Ps... I have had a moment or two in the middle of the night after a series of unwanted bat ray catches where I wished immediate death on all rays...
    But I am done night fishing, so even if I had that power there will still be a gazillion of them long after I feed the worms
     
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    AirAndSea

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    Lay them on their back and do what's necessary to avoid spines.
    If I'm barefoot surf fishing drag em up on the sand and flip them. Keep feet and hands at nose end. Pin em down with left hand and remove hook with right or cut line if that's better for the fish.

    On a boat with bigger model bat Ray's sometimes you have to use the gaff to flip them over so you can dig the treble out of their mouth if you pinned squid on a jig.
    If it's a bait hook usually its a line snip.

    I've released hundreds of Ray's and would guess I've killed zero to 5.

    The safest thing to do for me would be to cut the line and sacrifice the jig. I dont think I've ever done that in spite of my strong desire to not be an hour or more from the dock at 2a.m.
    Stung by a ray.
    But, I'm not gonna let it suffocate by a hook closing it up. That's certain death and a pussy move imo not trying to give it the chance to survive.

    Ain't no way you are getting a bigger model bat ray in and out of a net safely and my clique tends to have big nets on board.
    If it's small enough a ray and I think I can pull it off sure.

    If on occasion my best efforts have resulted in a dead ray it did it's part in the food chain as nature intended.
    It will be eaten instead of another creature that day by whatever it feeds.

    Ps... I have had a moment or two in the middle of the night after a series of unwanted bat ray catches where I wished immediate death on all rays...
    But I am done night fishing, so even if I had that power they'll still be a gazillion of them long after I feed the worms
    Great reply, thanks for the thorough info!
     
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    ZZZZZ

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    Some of my most memorable battles have been with batrays

    No, Tourist legand. The wings do not taste like scallops. But they are edible and can be sold when it comes time to feed the family or road side ceviche. Sea or Cortez
     
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    Batray lives matter!
    (Screw those seals though..)
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    ZZZZZ

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    Well definitely first try and gaff the treble hook. Like releasing a good fish on a party boat hooked on a jig

    Ever been on a sea of cortez midriff island. To find hundreds of juveniles winged out. On the beach. No pride in it

    So cool. In the summer here in the tropics. For a few days. We get huge schools over 100 strong. High and dry on the surface. Just past the waves. Breeding flapping their wings out of water. And aerial flopping. I just googled it. Can't find a photo. Will take some next February or so
     
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    For practice gaffing. Use a orange in the water. Newbs have been known to do that for improvement. From the bow
     
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    Well definitely first try and gaff the treble hook. Like releasing a good fish on a party boat hooked on a jig
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    Well definitely first try and gaff the treble hook. Like releasing a good fish on a party boat hooked on a jig

    Ever been on a sea of cortez midriff island. To find hundreds of juveniles winged out. On the beach. No pride in it

    So cool. In the summer here in the tropics. For a few days. We get huge schools over 100 strong. High and dry on the surface. Just past the waves. Breeding flapping their wings out of water. And aerial flopping. I just googled it. Can't find a photo. Will take some next February or so
    I've seen that behavior at a particular beach near Pt. Loma. Pretty cool. Saw three real sharks one day there too.
    I wanted to stay dry after that
    But I fished too long the tide came up and I had to swim a stretch around a point with my rod to get back to my truck... pucker factor maximum
     
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