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  1. Simon Bon Bowery

    Simon Bon Bowery Lizard Fish Hippie

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    Shogun fishing trip being investigated
    Seven Department of Fish & Wildlife game wardens checked Shogun catches from 2 1/2-day trip
    By Ed Zieralski12:15 a.m.March 14, 2014
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    Ted Dunn and Frank LoPreste's Shogun is being investigated by the Department of Fish and Wildlife after the boat returned from a 2 1/2-day trip to Mexican waters on Monday.
    The name of the trip was “Baja Freezer Special.” The question is did some of the anglers on the sport boat Shogun take it literally and return to San Diego with over limits of rockfish for the freezer and break Mexican fishing laws.

    Patrick Foy, Lt. game warden with the California Department of Wildlife, confirmed that the Shogun out of Fisherman’s Landing is under investigation for that 2½-day “Baja Freezer Special” trip that returned at daybreak on March 10. Witnesses say seven state game wardens were at the dock to greet the Shogun’s anglers. All of the fish caught on the trip were taken out and counted by the wardens on the promenade at the top of the dock’s walkway.

    “The wardens didn’t write any citations, and nothing has been filed with the District Attorney, but there is an ongoing investigation regarding the Shogun,” Lt. Foy said.

    Ted Dunn, who owns the Shogun with Frank LoPreste, said he thought the investigation was complete after the wardens left.

    “We had a couple of guys over limit, but that was it,” Dunn said. “It was just a routine check by the wardens, and they found the over-limits. The boat limit was fine. It was over as far as we were concerned, and there’s nothing more to it.”

    Foy confirmed it’s not over and that the investigation will continue.

    Sarah Saraspe, who owns Five Star Fish Processing at the foot of Point Loma, said none of her nine customers from the Shogun who used her service to process fish were over the Mexican legal limit for rockfish on the trip. Another fish processor, Fisherman’s Processing, was at the dock. It’s owned by LoPreste, Tim Ekstrom, Randy Toussaint and Sean Sebring. LoPreste didn’t return a phone call.

    Ken Franke, president of the Sportfishing Association of California, said inspections of California sport boats by game wardens have become more and more common and regular in recent months. He said SAC recently held meetings with the Department of Fish and Wildlife game wardens at Oxnard, Marina del Rey and Newport Beach to discuss how the boat inspections and angler checks by game wardens can be done without inconveniencing anglers before or after trips.

    “When they encounter violations they’re focusing more on educating the crews to all the regulations,” Franke said.

    Ironically, the DFW’s investigation of the Shogun is being done at a time when the entire sportfishing fleet is drawing praise from the environmental and scientific communities and from regulatory agencies like the Pacific Fisheries Management Council for its ongoing effort to release rockfish alive.

    Franke said the fleet has been using a descending device tool that allows anglers to release rockfish down to the depths without killing them. He said captains and crews have been working with the World Wildlife Fund on the project. The hope is to get more ocean water re-opened to fishing (back to 60 fathoms) by proving that fish like cow cod and rockfish can be released alive. Cod and rockfish brought up from the depths often have distended air bladders and need special care before being weighted down or descended slowly to proper depths to survive the ordeal.

    SAC and the World Wildlife Fund have put together over $40,000 to buy the descending device tools and deliver them to California sport boats, Franke said.

    Problem is, all that good work is for naught if anglers aren’t abiding by fishing regulations in the U.S. and Mexico, or if sport limits are abused.
     
  2. I'M OFF

    I'M OFF Really off

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    PB'rs get checked daily…………
    “We had a couple of guys over limit, but that was it,” Dunn said. “It was just a routine check by the wardens, and they found the over-limits. The boat limit was fine. It was over as far as we were concerned, and there’s nothing more to it.”


    Does this bring up the question………Boat limits, or angler limits? There is always a hot stick. Boats want their counts.
     
  3. Simon Bon Bowery

    Simon Bon Bowery Lizard Fish Hippie

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    I just put this up so anglers know they may be checked and could face consequences. It is so easy to go over limit on these freezer trips. I know I have not knowing..

    You know, others putting their fish in your sack...:rolleyes:

    Just s heads up...
     
  4. OCEAN theRAPIST

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    i have been stopped on the water twice in the last few months as of 2013 i never had them pull up on me well 3 miles out. im ready every time i come to the dock to see them but i wasnt read last time they came flying up well i was"with my girl"
     
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    I was checked Saturday night at Davies in Long Beach by DFG. Pulled all filets out to pair up by species. Checked our licenses. 1st time w/ the warden. A nice guy.
     
  6. Carl

    Carl Bridesmaid,,,,,,,Again

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    quote="I'M OFF, post: 3369963, member: 26924"]PB'rs get checked daily…………
    “We had a couple of guys over limit, but that was it,” Dunn said. “It was just a routine check by the wardens, and they found the over-limits. The boat limit was fine. It was over as far as we were concerned, and there’s nothing more to it.”


    Does this bring up the question………Boat limits, or angler limits? There is always a hot stick. Boats want their counts.[/quote]
    No.....
    It brings up the question of respecting Mexicos regs, and the sportboats stewardship of their passengers.
    It brings up the question of should Ca. wardens be checking a boat that didn't fish in Ca. waters apparently...
    It brings up the question of should Dunn stfu and say "no comment" next time a reporter ask him a question rather than coming off poorly in word as well as deed.
     
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  7. phillyblunt

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    That's it, I'm never going on the shogun again.

    But seriously, I made a descending device, 16oz weight with a big barbless hook facing down screwed into the side of the weight. Works like a charm. Are the fish surviving after? Idk, I hope so.
     
  8. BiggestT

    BiggestT I've posted enough I should edit this section

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    DFW has a current case where they busted guys who went on one of these freezer filler trips and then were caught selling the fish in Ventura. Ouch!
     
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    It wasn't on the ranger 85 was it?
     
  10. slicko

    slicko Newbie

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    Since when does a USA government agency have jurisdiction over fishing in Mexico ?
    Something is not right here......
     
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    BiggestT I've posted enough I should edit this section

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    I'll find out more details.

    When the DFW did not issue citations for over limits found on the Shogun, but insisted that their investigation is continuing, you can bet they're after bigger fish in this story.
     
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    No.....
    It brings up the question of respecting Mexicos regs, and the sportboats stewardship of their passengers.
    It brings up the question of should Ca. wardens be checking a boat that didn't fish in Ca. waters apparently...
    It brings up the question of should Dunn stfu and say "no comment" next time a reporter ask him a question rather than coming off poorly in word as well as deed.[/quote]


    Well said.
     
  13. wahoodad

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    Because the boat departed and returned from/ to an American port.
    Pretty standard stuff really.
     

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