Freedom out of 22 nd st

frazier

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Went on the freedom Sunday to SCI what a waste of $350 total spent for my son and I , caught one calico before the sun came up then with all the rude people and the deck hands that kept crowding me out of a place to fish I cut off my hook and put the pole in the rack and gave up. Why is it that when people have to catch that fish that all there manners just go out the window? Never will I go on one of their boats again!
 
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XBDEE

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They're not all bad. Just gotta be real picky on the boats you choose to ride on and the days. Hope you guys have better luck next time!
 
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eviljaysen

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sorry you had a bummer of a day. sometimes cattle boats are like that... commando fishing. how many people were on the boat? Personally, i have fished the freedom many times last year and have had nothing but good things to say about the crew and passengers... but generally speaking... there is always one, THAT GUY. Maybe there was a boatload of them on your trip. I will be fishing with them this weekend, Friday for Saturday. They just got back in the water, i hope nothing has changed.
 
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    Went on the freedom Sunday to SCI what a waste of $350 total spent for my son and I , caught one calico before the sun came up then with all the rude people and the deck hands that kept crowding me out of a place to fish I cut off my hook and put the pole in the rack and gave up. Why is it that when people have to catch that fish that all there manners just go out the window? Never will I go on one of their boats again!
    These trips are what you make of them,if you throw your rod down and sulk the day away what do you expect?Next time wade into the middle of it all,laugh and have a good time whether catching fish or not,set an example for your son!dont cry on the internet.You were on one of the first trips after a major remodel and upgrade on the boat and you dont even mention one thing about that?If its only about getting fish for you call tommy at avalon seafoods and he will ship it to your door alot cheaper.
     
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    Matto

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    350$ is pretty pricey for a calico bass----many boats to choose from---like Jaysen says , probably a boat load of THOSE GUYS--if some of them were deckhands----SKIP THAT BOAT--------I bet you were ready for a air lift---better luck next time
     
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    abdiver7777

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    That's why most folks that fish a lot of party boats tend to look for limited load private charters with a couple open spots.... it cost more than open cattle boats but benefits outweigh the cost difference...

    The rich and entitled just buy their own boats............
     
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    Blackfish

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    Sucks when you bring your kid on the boat and run into a-holes...but "cutting your hook off, and putting your rod in the holder."

    What about your son. How do you think that made him feel. Not sure how old he is, but I would do my best to make the best of the situation for my son.

    Looks like fish were caught for those that put a line in the water.

    21 California Yellowtail, 87 Ocean Whitefish, 5 California Sheephead, 132 Rockfish, 6 Kelp Bass, 1 Pacific Bonito
     
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    Blackfish

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    The rich and entitled just buy their own boats............


    Thats funny. I guess I am part of the 1% now. :rolleyes:o_O

    Look at all those rich and entitled jack offs looking for YT off San Clemente, and crowding the poor people on the cattle boats. LOL Pic. curtseys of Fishdopes spotter plane, Facebook page. Shit, the guy who owns the plane must be Bill Gates.
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    NoLDR

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    What does a "major remodel" have to do with his experience with the captain, crew and passengers? While I agree he needed to man up and fish, a lot of people that go on this kind of trip are new to sport boat fishing ie COMBAT fishing, that being said it is up to the "Captain and Crew" to make this guy feel welcome and make his experience memorable. If a Captain or Crew allows a guy to "cut his line and rack his rod for the day" something is wrong. I'm of the mindset the Captain and Crew make the trip, even a very tough trip fun to be on after all they are in the customer service industry.

    I have fished the Freedom many times and have some fantastic memories bummer this individual didn't leave with the same experience. Will have to check out the new and improved Freedom next time I get a chance.

    NoLDR over and out!!

    Brad
     
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    slydawg

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    There is a way to casually make your way through crowds/tangles etc... Be cool, calm, courteous and smile. It's contagious. If you have a hot head and a bad attitude, that is also contagious and does nothing to temper the situation.
     
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    duckbutter6a

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    Some boats are better than others but you have to fight for your spot at the feed trough on cattle boats. Sharp elbows and such…
    Try going on a week day. Weekends are always crowded.

    I got tired of cattle boat fishing "only child syndrome" and decided that the low price wasn’t worth the headache and purchased a used boat. Going out with a few friends or even alone is great. I catch alot more fish as well...
     
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    jer dog

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    Some boats are better than others but you have to fight for your spot at the feed trough on cattle boats. Sharp elbows and such…
    Try going on a week day. Weekends are always crowded.

    I got tired of cattle boat fishing "only child syndrome" and decided that the low price wasn’t worth the headache and purchased a used boat. Going out with a few friends or even alone is great. I catch alot more fish as well...
    the big problem is I used to fish the Freedom with 36 and thought that was to many now their putting 45 on moo
     
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    fishhard

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    If your going to go cattle boating, I suggest you fish a boat that will assign numbered spots on the rail. When I go cattle boat fishing I will only fish the Southern Cal out of Long Beach for this very reason. The crew is good at telling the ass hats to fish there number when they start moving in on you!!
     
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    duckbutter6a

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    Ouch. Ive seen some boats out of Long Beach with people crowding every inch of the rail.

    Tangle city.

    I screwed up and rode a boat out of DP that had a groupon deal going. I wondered why my buddy said I could have his spare ticket.... It sounds pretty much like the opening posters trip but with more passengers and heavily influenced my decision to buy a boat.
     
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    slydawg

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    If your going to go cattle boating, I suggest you fish a boat that will assign numbered spots on the rail. When I go cattle boat fishing I will only fish the Southern Cal out of Long Beach for this very reason. The crew is good at telling the ass hats to fish there number when they start moving in on you!!

    "I know I'm fishing on the wrong side of the boat, but this is my assigned spot. Shuffle right??? But But, my number is here!" :confused::confused::confused:
     
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    bosco

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    Went on the freedom Sunday to SCI what a waste of $350 total spent for my son and I , caught one calico before the sun came up then with all the rude people and the deck hands that kept crowding me out of a place to fish I cut off my hook and put the pole in the rack and gave up. Why is it that when people have to catch that fish that all there manners just go out the window? Never will I go on one of their boats again!
    When fishing on the Freedom you have to know the LAW; You're either an INLAW or an OUTLAW! bosco
     
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    abdiver7777

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    Thats funny. I guess I am part of the 1% now. :rolleyes:o_O

    Look at all those rich and entitled jack offs looking for YT off San Clemente, and crowding the poor people on the cattle boats. LOL Pic. curtseys of Fishdopes spotter plane, Facebook page. Shit, the guy who owns the plane must be Bill Gates.
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    You..... You.... You..... REPUBLICAN......................
     
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    OILAGER

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    I don't know how old your son is but rdrrm8e is steering you in the right direction. Find a trip that you would expect to have a bit more civilized patrons (even if it costs a little more), and get your son some quality fishing experience. Also, there are a lot of anglers with various levels of experience on this site that do all kinds of trips where you and your son can grab some fishing time, usually for a lot less money than cattle boat, just post a note on the offshore or local planning forum. Based on the recent excellent fishing that's been going on everyone is expecting this season to surpass last years bonanza, most of us here would rather see the next generation get excited about fishing instead of getting discouraged and joining some sort anti-fishing organization.

    As far as bad manners go, I attend an auction every Friday that has a vendor open a dozen boxes of free doughnuts right before the sale starts just so they can watch 80+ men act like piranhas on blood soaked meat. God help us if there ever is a true apocalypse.
     
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    fishkilr

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    I suggest you fish a boat that will assign numbered spots on the rail.
    Since most guys on sport boats seem to be novice anglers having assigned spots is used by crews strictly to stop arguments between passengers....it's a lazy way to handle a boat with 30 to 50 passengers but understandable for crowds like that because getting people to understand why they should move takes too much time..
    The reality is Anyone who knows how to fish understands that adjusting your position on the boat for many reasons will increase your ability to hook and actually land your fish through the crowd but understanding when and why takes time at the rail.
    It makes it appear that some guys are trying to take advantage of others when they bounce from spot to spot but they are actually adjusting for current, boat swing and a ton of other reasons...
    IT AINT PERSONAL
     
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    plj46

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    Dont blame it on the boat,blame it on the passengers.Some guys get like women at a dress sale if someone hooks up or the boat stops.Etiquitte,manners and the ability to realize there are others on the boat all disappear.
     
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