For Those Who Still Use Split Rings On Flatfalls For Big Bluefin...

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  1. el Toro

    el Toro I've posted enough I should edit this section

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  2. el Toro

    el Toro I've posted enough I should edit this section

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    Something else just occurred to me... one of those I feel dumb moments.


    Shimano sells the damn things with the hooks on the back end, opposite from the eye painted on the jig. So then is that where they intended us to tie the line to? Fishing the jig “upside down”, painted eye on the bottom? The pic above (while not a Shimano FF) seems to reinforce this. Yet this doesn’t seem to be how most of us fish the jig. 90% of the time I see the line tied onto the side with the eye.


    I’ve been removing the factory assist hooks, installing a single Mustad 7691 in their place, and then installing aftermarket assist hook(s) on the other side (the side with the eye painted on) with a solid ring and tying the line to this side. Am I doing it backwards?
     
  3. Adrien Baker

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    No, the flat fall packaging shows tying the line to the eye on the eye end.

    I think the idea of tying to the solid ring came from the not as popular butterfly jigs that preceded the flat fall. Those style of jigs didn’t used to come pre-rigged and you had to buy the hooks and rig them yourself.

    Adrien

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  4. maurice escobedo

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    Are there any good videos out there for the soldering/brazing of the solid rings?
     
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    Yes owner . I know these works this way .
     
  6. el Toro

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    If that’s the way SHimano wants them rigged why do the hooks come on the back?
     
  7. el Toro

    el Toro I've posted enough I should edit this section

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    There a mile long thread in the long range forum on the subject.
     
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    What drag setting were you using?
     
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    I pull test all of mine after rigging, I attach them to my 50lb scale and bottom it out. I've had some straighten out, the survivors get body weight tested, if they pass that I fish them
     
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    This is one of the reasons I switched to the bridled setup. It just cuts down on how many connections you are playing the fish on, multiple connections to me, only means multiple points of failure.


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    Perfect analysis..... the split ring is to only hold the jig to the solid ring. Would suggest modifying your rigging to reflect Mr. Fishbuzz's description.
    That's it !!! All the pressure is applied to the solid ring the split ring just attaches the jig.
     
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    Just buy the figure 8 rings and forget about soldering.
     
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    What size figure 8 ring is that, Medium or Large?

    Found them on Amazon:

     
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    Way cheaper on e-bay FYI
     
  15. el Toro

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    What if you want to run a hook off the back end of the jig too? The landings sell them "upgraded" this way by some guy ;-) That pretty much rules out the way of rigging pictured above with only the jig dangling off the split ring, right?

    Pro/Cons?
     
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    running a hook off the back greatly reduces the action of any flat fall type jig...my friend did extensive pool testing and this proved to be true.
     
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    Thanks FB!
     
  18. maurice escobedo

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    I rig my flatfalls with larger J hooks so soldering will be necessary.
    Unless there’s a better option.
     
  19. el Toro

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    Interesting, as I've read plenty that state the contrary too.
     
  20. JoeInMN

    JoeInMN Fishing from 40 below to 120 above..

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    Anyone tried the new Nomad rings? I think some are rated up to 300+ lbs.
     

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