for the young BD's, black Penn 6/0 or Penn super mariner 49?

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  1. steelfish

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    what would be better as a back up reel for deep fishing and trolling?

    boths are black old models
    - Penn senator 6/0 2.1:1 ratio (with the real big handle type)
    - Penn super mariner 49 3.5:1 ratio



    I know both need drags replaced, but I simply dont want to mess with both right now, I think for this old models I will only need 1, so its the one that will be cleaned, grased and have the drags replaced.

    which one is stronger to be used with dacron as backing and 50# long mono leader?

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    I think a key factor in your choice is going to be parts availability.
    Parts for the 49 will be more difficult to find, although with Craig's List, etc, nothing is impossible.
    Parts for the 6/0 will be very easy to get hold of.
     
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    6/0 for deep drop and troll and marnier for casting
     
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    whats wrong with the supermariner 49?
     
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    Alex, in my area (Miami) that reel was considerd a "monel" reel. It was intended for wire line trolling. They were good for what they were made for but not for what you want (assuming a 6/0 is right for what you want).

    Today that reel has more value as a parts horse (or collectable) than it has as a fishing machine. If it is cheap and works buy it. You will probably make enough profit on ebay to get a 6/0, especially if it is loaded with monel.
     
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    You really don't want to try to cast a 49. The shape makes this very very difficult. It just won't work. The 49 has another problem: unless you have a new one with a black aluminum spool, you'll soon realize that the spool doesn't handle mono very well; it will too easily get out of round. Also, 49 parts are getting very expensive. You can still find them but how long us anyone's guess because the reel has been discontinued for several years. That said, I see lots of 49s in my shop. People love them in SE Alaska.
     
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    - I already have those both reels, just wanted to know which one would be more useful as backup, my normal medium trolling reel is a Sealine 250mag, and my casting reel is a calcutta 400TE and a small saltist 20H, so this 49 or 6/0 may never be used in normal conditions.



    mine have a SS spool (or brass?), - 1 point

    those people in Alaska cannot be that wrong !! + 1 point
     
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    If you're hell bent to use the 349 then use it.

    Enough people told you the 6/0 is better for trolling.

    The 349 will have 4/0 drags and the 6/0 has bigger drags.

    Put the Mariner on the shelf. It looks cool.

    If the 6/0 has a huge handle, it is probably a rock cod handle. No good for trolling really.

    Best Bet: Sell both on Ebay and turn around a get a used 6/0 114H with aluminum spool and Tiburon Frame!!!
     
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    LOL yep, it looks cool, I was hoping to hear that it was good also



    that sounds like a good idea too
     
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    with a gear ratio of 3.5 to 1 and the large diameter spool you will reteive a lot of line with each crank it haul line back at or faster speed than a normal sized reel
    the spacer bars are the same size as a Penn 501 but you need 3 instead of 2 like a 501
    and with greased smoooth drags
    Many a wahoo has fallen a 49 reel
    it will get a jig moving fast
    when your cleaning and lubing it
    watch out for the anti reverse spring
    its just a thin brass strip
    and it will vanish in a nano second
    Don't ask Me how I know this

    I say go for the 49
     
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    I spent a lot of money obtaining/went to a lot of trouble repairing a 49 for a friend who loves a narrow spool reel for trolling for Spring Salmon-which is all it's good for these days-nobody uses wire to troll.
     
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    do you have the code or part number for a new set of drag washer for the mariner 49?
     
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    AKSalmon I've posted enough I should edit this section

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    The part number for the 49 drag washer is 006 049. They cost about $1.50 each at PennParts.com. You need 3.
     
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    thanks Bill

    smoothdrag.com have already emailed me on their prices:

    smoothies $3.50 complete set
    carbontex $11.00 complete set

    I've hear a lot of good things on carbontex, but I still dont have any experience on them, is there a real difference in performance? (planning on getting a set of carbontex for my calcutta TE but just because everyone say they're the best.)

    as you can see money is not the problem here, for that price I can pay for THE BEST jajaja..
    but just for my records, what the diff between both drag washer brands?
     
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    AKSalmon I've posted enough I should edit this section

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    Carbontex washers are great -- but no better than HT-100s. Their real advantage is that they are available for many non-Penn reels. In the shop, I use them for all reels other than Penn.
     

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