FLYING FISH PENCIL POPPER

Discussion in 'San Diego Long Range fishing Reports' started by pwstriper, Jan 22, 2017.

  1. pwstriper

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    This isn't specifically a Long Range question but figured this group might have the most insight as they are used to targeting the larger grade tunas.

    So last year we saw success with the Yummy flyer in the SoCal bite, which leads you to think the bluefin and yellowfin have an affinity for flying fish. Im wondering if anyone knows of a stick bait or pencil popper that actually has wings (not drawn on) with the idea of trying to cast and skip it and pause, skip it and pause.

    Thanks trying to think out of the box before our local blue moose show back up.
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  2. Let em eat 74

    Let em eat 74 Well-Known "Member"

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    I like the innovative thought, but I can't imagine casting something like that.
     
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    You need to Check out M. Fischer Plugs, as close as it's going to get. The other option is Saltywatertackle.com. Speak with Paul or Sami, they know what's up.

    Marc's plugs are poppers, Saltywater Tackle has lots of stickbaits.

    Last place I would check is Strategic Angler, good stuff.
     
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    People have trolled the yummee flyer, it works okay, but it really has to be pulled upwards by a kite or balloon to make it skip properly. Yummee flyers also come in the "wings in" design, but those are more for below surface retrieval. The closest you can come to this with a castable lure is to use a popper or a skip lure with a high speed reel (55-65" per crank) and make the lure bounce out of the water.
     
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    and then try to reel in a 200# fish on a 6:1 or 8:1 reelo_O
     
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    LOL
     
  8. yellowfish26

    yellowfish26 Totally Nude 24/7

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    It seems to me besides the skipping action of the yummy flier, as important is the fact that the heavy leader and terminal tackle are held out of the water by the kite (which is how they are fished) so all the fish sees is the lure. So any comparison to a stick bait is irrelevant imo.
     
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    Hey, that's the tradeoff! A stella 18k stock is 53" at 5.7:1, switch it out for a 20000 spool and you can get more like 60" per crank with the same 5.7:1. You have to want it to fish cows with that setup, but its doable (and its been done).
     
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    While everyone was chiming in, i went and made a prototype, Feathers are facing up so should skip.. probably wont work. But the idea would be to go fast and as hell then stop, Like when they hit a popper on the standstill. Stormy day fun, prob wont work but hey, Large orca with feathers drilled in and glued IMG_6962.JPG
     
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    M fisher makes a pretty cool popper with "wings" that I will be trying out at hurricane .

    It's the top one- looks bitchin in the water
    IMG_20170114_081729_463.jpg
     
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    Though can't get much distance, we throw frenzy flyers in the GOMEX very effective on 60 to 100+ grade fish. Cast, let sit, pop, sit...explode. How about on the drift?
     
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    I'm not sure that they're keying in on flying fish specifically, but rather the irresistable surface commotion made by some sort of edible sized fish
     
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    Well I certainly wish you well with 2-4 hours of pain.......and for the rest of the boat 2-4 hours of boredom.
     
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    Side arm your cast with a heavy plug in a ff color pattern so that it flies closer to the surface of the water going out. The fish will see it flying thru the air and mistake it for a flying fish. A lot of the time your plug will be slurped up by a waiting tuna as soon as it hits the surface. Here in the gulf of mex when fishing at night you can see the yft taking off after it like a free safety trying to bust up a pass. Better watch your thumb because it can be either a big backlash or a big blister when they hit if you aren't thumbing the side of the spool properly.
     
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    Are you referring to the Ballistic Flyers? The type with the wings spread out? Or are you using the type with the wings folded in about half way?

    Do you use any weights? I.e. egg sinkers?
     
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    Nice looking poppers. Weight? Size? Price?
     
  18. Bill W

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    Rollo used to hook big fish on the skip jig 4/0 and long rod, then immediately hand it off. Funny guy, loaded with gags like that.
     
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    They are custom made by Mark Fisher out of Cedar.

    He is sold out of them and they are $$$.

    I will report back on how it fished next month but this may be a good plug for the GOM peeps too or anywhere where the Tuna are keyed on the Flyers.

    https://www.mfischerplugs.com/products/flying-fish?variant=21476208581

    Specifications:

    • #1 Grade Red Cedar Body
    • Body Length: 5 3/4"
    • Approx. wt. 3 1/4oz
    • Thru-wire construction with High Tensile TIG wire
    • 6X Strong VMC 4/0 Treble Hook
    • 6/0 Siwash VMC Tail Hook
    • Reinforced Nose Grommet
    • Over-tied Epoxied Tail
    • 600lb Krok Barrel Swivel
    • 270lb Triple Split Ring
     
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    Standard Frenzy Flyer, no added weight. Fished with 50 mono topshot on an LX Raptor on a 700H. Both blue and pink.
     
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