Flatfall - tie direct to 130 # fluoro or add 300# fluro bite leader

Fishrdan

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Heading out Monday on a 2.5 day trip and looks like the big BFT are coming in. I have an Avet AXW Raptor and an Avet 30/2W, both rigged with 10' 130# fluoro topshots. Also have several flatfalls: 200, 250, 300 and 500G.

Tie the flatfall direct to the 130# fluoro with a 3-4 turn San Diego knot? Or, do I need to stop at a tackle shop in SD and have them crimp on a 3-4' 300# fluoro bite leader.

I'd assume the landing shops could handle this? I'll have 3-4 hours to burn in the afternoon, so can stop at another shop around the SD area if you have any recommendations, Squidco, other?

Thanks - Dan
 

AKSalmon

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I'm sure you could get your flat falls rigged on the boat with 300# if that's what you want but really, 130# will work.
 

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Add a swivel and split ring to jig if you tie direct. Else, you'll get massive line twist.

That is how I do it. For some reason I dont like the 200-300lb bite leaders.

Edit....other advantage, quick change jigs with split rings.

No wrong way.
 
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Heading out Monday on a 2.5 day trip and looks like the big BFT are coming in. I have an Avet AXW Raptor and an Avet 30/2W, both rigged with 10' 130# fluoro topshots. Also have several flatfalls: 200, 250, 300 and 500G.
I had the long fin rig all my flat falls and AHI with 250 Mono.
Tie the flatfall direct to the 130# fluoro with a 3-4 turn San Diego knot? Or, do I need to stop at a tackle shop in SD and have them crimp on a 3-4' 300# fluoro bite leader.

I'd assume the landing shops could handle this? I'll have 3-4 hours to burn in the afternoon, so can stop at another shop around the SD area if you have any recommendations, Squidco, other?

Thanks - Dan
 

Fishrdan

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Thanks for the replies. If tying 130# fluoro direct will avoid chew-offs, I'll run with that. Didn't want to dump $200 into a spool of heavy fluoro, crimps and crimp pliers, at this time. Figured I could get it rigged at a shop, if needed.

I rigged them on top with a #9 split ring connecting: 350# swivel, solid ring for assist hooks and top FF eye. Bottom has a #9 split ring and either 8/0 VMC or 9/0 Mustad, I don't trust split rings, so brazed them shut.
 
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JamesTaylor

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I got a spool of momoi hi catch x-hard 220 lb for cheap From Melton tackle. It felt stiff and abrasion resistant but we will see. I usually do 3’ of the 220 lb because I’ve looked at peoples used flat falls and leaders and the main area where they are chafed is like 1-2 ft above the flat fall.
 
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SouthBayKiller

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IMHO, you don't need Fluoro for this, 200-400lb mono works just fine.

130lb straight will most likely work for all but the nastiest of fish.
 
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i use a 200# Softsteel Mono Top crimped to a 300# snap swivel. The crew will crimp it for you if you ask nicely
 

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Have a great trip! Hope you catch a fat one! But for the future, you should seriously consider buying a decent crimper (and it doesn't have to be some mega-bucks model, you are not crewing for a living and using it all of the time) and getting several sizes of double-sleeve crimps. I'm still quite happy with my thirty years old Hi Seas crimper that cost well under fifty bucks, and three sizes of double-sleeve crimps: 1.0 mm for 20# to 70# mono/fluoro, 1.3mm for 80# to 130#, and 1.5 mm for 150# to 200#. The important thing is proper technique and double-crimp, and use a small plastic tube to protect from chafing at the hook eye or ring eye. You can be completely set for very little investment, way less than the cost of a handful of lures.
 
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Put me down for 200-300# mono short bite leader for nite flatfall drops - I like to keep the leader a little longer than the fish I'm expecting so the tail doesn't shred the spectra if it gets tangled on the tail

I bought the Jinkai Crimper - Swedger SC-3C (this was the best highest rated crimper tool I could find) and started doing my own crimping - double San Diego knot braid to swivel...
 
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