Flat Fall jigs

Discussion in 'San Diego Long Range fishing Reports' started by Tymeflyme, Aug 6, 2016.

  1. Topcat80

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    Here is a picture of the 200 gram Shimano Green Glow with the hook they put on last year. The one's below are the knock off versions with the better type of hook
    I had Sav On Tackle put them on for me 3 weeks ago. .

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    How long does it usually take for savons to braze the rings on these jigs?
     
  3. Topcat80

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    I was there no more than 15 minutes to get 3 done. They are right off of Hwy 5 on the way down towards San Diego. Heads up they don't open until 10 am.
     
  4. Jeremiah Lubas

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    Does it matter if the hook is pointing up (towards the eye) or down towards the belly when you rig it this way? Answers welcome from anyone with first hand knowledge on the subject.
     
  5. harddrive

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    I tried the flat fall with 7691 hooks pointing up and the line would get caught on the line. This year, I am going to redo and point the hooks down.
     
  6. JohnTFT

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    I have asked many times with no responses. Why not just used improved assist hooks?

    The jig swims perfect. They dont foul hook on the line.

    With the right kevlar and hook they are not going to fail.

    Why the Southern Tuna and Jobu's with welded rings?
     
  7. RichG

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    John, that's a great question.. to add to it, where do you put the assist hooks? At the top or bottom of the jig?
     
  8. JohnTFT

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    When the flat fall jigs first came out I was invited to go on a Shimano sponsored fishing trip. One of the designers of the flat falls was on the boat.

    Hooks off the bottom. Resembles a squid.

    It just seems to me the large shank of a southern tuna or jobu doesnt make much sense since the hook will be pinned along side the jig on the way down and could get fouled when you stop the flutter.

    Never caught a cow on a flat fall. But some nice YFT. Lots of striped bass and bottom fish using assist hooks.
     
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  9. SouthBayKiller

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    John, my best guess on this one but the reason is probably because when the stock hooks were failing on bigger fish us leftcoasters did what was familiar to us with other iron lures, which was to ring it like our other iron jigs out here. Gotta remember this “big” bluefin thing is still in its infancy out here. Btw no cows for me on the flatfall, but I did get 2 fish over 150 on flatfall, with a single hook stainless mustad ringed on the back like the top one above. Both fish had the hook basically in its gills it was so deep. 0108BEC5-848E-41C3-9F68-EDE08C04394B.jpeg E59587EF-6E16-40AA-8C6C-F7A18E9057F3.jpeg
     
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    I think the answer to that is because on the west coast it is what they are used to.. they like welded hooks on the bottom, conventional reels , long rods etc..

    As far as the hook placement on the flat fall I put the assist hooks at the top. , some put it at the bottom. No difference. It all works..

    One thing is common:
    If you are going after bigger fish you MUST replace the stock hooks and split ring for higher chances of success
     
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    Here's how I rig mine. 20170802_151633.jpg 20170802_152327.jpg
     
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    Did you rig that yourself? If so, what size leader and which sleeve is in the photo?

    Adrien
     
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    Yep, did them myself, it’s 200lb izor mono. Can’t remember the size of the crimp off hand but it says right on it “for izor 200lb”. The leader, the crimp, the chafe springs, a lighter and a crimper is all you need.
     
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    Ok Dave, so what hook usually gets bit? And how often do you stick yourself with a hook?
     
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    LOL, I learned this rigging on the Outrider from Tucker for BFT. They so much as look at it, they are hooked :D
    I do hook myself getting it out of my tackle box, but surprisingly it doesn't get fouled much fishing it.
     
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    what was the main hook you are using?
     
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    Dave, what model is the big single hook? Tx Mark
     
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    I am sorry, I do not know. I have about 6 of them from a friend. I thought it might be a Quick Rig hook, John Nappo???.?
     
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    tagged.
     

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