Flat Fall jigs

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  1. finsane

    finsane I've posted enough I should edit this section

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    100gm on the left, 130gm on the right.

    6/0 Owner Stinger Siwash open eye. It's what I had laying around.
     
  2. FlotillaKilla

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    Check The Longfin in Orange CA
     
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    Thanks for all the information on flat fall jigs. I just ordered some and looking forward on trying them out at the ridge in October.:jig:
     
  4. Reverendpdp

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    On the 200g, what size assist hooks are you using? 7/0? Do you use a single or tandem?
    Can't seem to find the glow colors... any links? Is that the only color to throw?
     
  5. walkerman

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    One thing I have noticed about flat fall jigs is that they seem to cause more than their fair share of tangles. I guess it is especially true when the boat is drifting as opposed to anchored.
     
  6. DannyNoonan

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    I'm no expert as I continue to absorb information on the various 'Asian styles' of jigging. But I suspect FF jigs end up in tangles here in So Cal trips because most folks don't really understand how to rig for them, or how to fish them...

    I think the inclination is to work them much like a typical yo-yo jig - drop down, and then wind up fast. The only major difference being that the FF's get bit more frequently on the drop than traditional yo-yo jigs.

    But the primary action of flat falls, and 'slow pitch' jigs in general, is the flutter movement imitation of a dying bait fish. Whereas yo-yo's represent a healthy bait (fin bait or squid) streaking past a predator triggering a reaction bit, slow pitches are meant to imitate weak prey (an easier meal, if you will). Both have their applications - depending upon what the fish want...

    Because slow pitches flutter down slowly - AND because most SoCal fishermen are fishing them on heavier lines (to avoid chew-offs, AND because everybody knows you use higher breaking strength spectra than your top shot), they tend to really carry with the current. Much more so than fast dropping yo-yo jigs. Much of the info I'm running across suggest that the more slow pitch focused jiggers are actually fishing them on MUCH lighter line - depending upon depth, and to a lessor extent on jig size, PE 1.5 - 3 braid sizes (20-40# spectra) are pretty common for jigs up to 300g or so for deeper applications (150+ feet), with only a very short leader of heavier mono. This presents must less resistance to a cross current, with the jig more likely to remain close to vertical...

    So... Side by side with other yo-yo jiggers, on similar heavier pound test setups, the flat fall guy's jig is gonna drift - a LOT. If everyone doesn't stick with the 'wind in your face...', tangles are going to occur...

    JMO
     
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    Real newbie question here: I'm in the process of swapping out the assist hooks with some Owners and Williamsons. I went with the next larger size. These both are quite a bit longer than the stock assists. Does this matter?
     
  8. nmthree

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    How do you calculate the proper length of the assist hooks? The replacement assist hooks made by Owner seem to be 1-2 inches longer than stock hooks. Does it matter? How long is too long?
     
  10. Derby

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    Becuase it's a vertical jig and people dont use the right size for the current or drift they are fishing.

    Using a 160gm in 5-10knots of wind I get 3 maybe 4 drops in the zone before I have to reel up and start over. An 80 or 100gm would be one or two drops. By drops I mean freespool past fish depth, say 120', drop to 150' wind to 100' drop to 150'. Once it scopes out too far you have to start over. Else, you cause tangles and you dont know the depth you are fishing.

    It's also good practice to have your top shot 50yds. Tuna seem to hang at the 20 fathom line. This allows you to know where you jig is and keep it there while working it. Also a good idea to count down the drop. Then you know next time the approximate depth.
     
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    Anyone consider adding glow in the dark paint to make jigs that don't glow nice and functional? I've lots of irons (some which could use a new paint job) that I wish were good to drop in dark/gray light. And where could we find such a paint???


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  13. ripped

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    I found both paint and powder in Amazon. I mixed the powder with epoxy and have applied it to the flat side of some jigs. The paint needs to have a base coat of white to get the most reflection out of the paint.
     
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    Does it glow similar to store bought jigs?? I think the fish might know the difference between full retail price gear and home brew[emoji50]


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  15. ripped

    ripped I've posted enough I should edit this section

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    Shimano's are air brushed on so the edges fade out where brushed on have a line of demarcation. I don't think the fish give a rip.
     
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    1/3 to 1/2 the length of the jig. Hook size should be larger than the width of the jig so that it doesn't hang up on the body.
     
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    By width you mean the thickness right?

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  18. Cubeye

    Cubeye I've posted enough I should edit this section

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    Well, I guess. It's the largest part of the jig.
     
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    Alumiglow. Check out " Jig " Forum
     
  20. Derby

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    Just buy the Shimano jigs. With the time and extra money of all this glow shit your wasting time you could be fishing.
     
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