Flat fall jigs

Discussion in 'Shimano Fishing Gear' started by Outhouse, Aug 22, 2014.

  1. HoxFish

    HoxFish Fam crest-My Lure is True

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    ^^^^ That sucks.

    I'm going to try some variations on my upcoming trip. Stuff like direct tie with a circle, long tag, making my own assists, & so on. Fingers crossed the fish play along so I can report back some results.
     
  2. pukahd

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    Here are my finished jigs. I added solid rings to the top and bottom. You see what a big yellow did to the hook and I'm sure those tiny split rings on the bottom that comes with the jigs aren't much stronger. The top ring diameter in my opinion is too small and will have a much higher chance to cut through the knot. Sam's crew at Island Tackle in Carson will add solid rings all sizes on any jig for $2 a ring.

    Anyways, I was curious how Shimano had the hooks rigged so I undid the rigging...hmm over hand knot with the tag end wrapped.

    Choice for 3 Owner Assist hooks for $9 or off brand 5 pcs = 10 Assist hooks for $5....not sure of the Spectra test and hook mfg but the rig looks solid and the clean.

    Brian

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  3. Bantam1

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    The hooks are made by Owner. The same hooks they use on their assist hook sets. A broken hook like that tells me they were too hard. It can and does happen with any hook manufacturer. The hooks are tin coated to prevent corrosion. Several manufacturers use this same method of coating the hooks.
     
  4. big dog62

    big dog62 Well-Known "Member"

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    Many lure manufactures use hollow, thin, tin hooks. Not only are they cheaper, but light weight to give the lure better action. After you replace the hooks, you might want to drop it in a pool to make sure your adjustments doesn't affect the action. I use a heavy hook too, but just one.
     
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  5. Bantam1

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    The Owner hooks we use are not hollow. I suggest contacting Owner to discuss how their hooks are made.
     
  6. Dan Banks

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    i don't know but this may be a good answer as to why they are sold out everywhere. this one is non modified. this was a 4 1/2 hour battle on #60 with a talica 16. fish was #125 IMG_2774.JPG
     
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  7. Bantam1

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    Nice Bluefin! And on the right gear for the bonus!
     
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    like a boss!
     
  9. Steve K

    Steve K Hey, I'm gettin' bit...

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    Dan, nice fish. Seems like a rather long fight for a125 pound fish on that tackle. Was it just a devil fish?
     
  10. Dan Banks

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    Ya. This fish was definitely psyhco. I gave it to Marcus to kill. The last 100 feet took 1/2 hour. At one point when Marcus was on him he made a run all the way to the surface then circled the whole boat then took another 100 feet back down, all in the span of 1 minute . My thumb is still blue from the color of the hollow ace braid. I was so frustrated with him taking line.

    I think this fish woke up in the morning and drank like a gallon of RED BULL. If i didn't have him on the jig i don't think we would have landed him. The jig kept the #60 floro of his body so we had no abrasion on it. The other one i caught that day was a #195 he was in in 1 1/2 hours. But on a talica 25 with #100 floro vs #60.
     
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    I'm gonna try this...7/0 Super Mutu

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  12. Xue

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    What terez rod is that? I used a medium heavy 8' paired with talica 10 on tuna under 40 lbs and it was too easy.
     
  13. Mocruz1200

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    That hook might be too closed to work properly.
     
  14. Dan Banks

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    I can't read anything on the rod anymore and it was brand new. Trashed up to the second guide from the reel seat. This was a hard won battle. I am pretty sure it is a 7XH. We have all battled #40 fish and i hear you, but i think there is a big difference when these fish start to get bigger. #40 bluefin takes 20 min to land therefore a #100 would be 100 min. The other thing is they are all different. The #195 i got was to the boat in 1 1/2 hours. The Talica 16 didn't run out of drag or anything like that this guy just wouldn't surrender. I am sure there are other on the forum with more experience with big fish that could elaborate more on this as it is an interesting point...
     
  15. Bantam1

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    Matching rods to your line class is the top priority. Since this jig is mostly taken on the fall, almost any rod will work.
     
  16. Xue

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    I like these terez rods because they're small and light and have enough backbone to bring in big fish. I was wondering how one would feel with a bigger reel like a 12 or 16, since my reels are mostly 10 size. Being that they are so small, it might feel off balanced. Maybe a 7' heavy or XH for a TAC12?
     
  17. Bantam1

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    I have fished the TAC12II on the 80H and the 70XH. They both felt fine balance-wise.
     
  18. Tango909

    Tango909 Protector of the Bight

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    Still sold out everywhere...anybody have an idea where I can pick some up?
     
  19. Slater

    Slater cuss on Monday,pray on Sunday,dream about one day

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  20. Mocruz1200

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    i was at the longfin yesterday, they are littered with all sizes and colors.
     

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