Flat fall bridle leader setup

pukahd

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Its sorta like nose hooking a dine....no.problem for large tunes to enhale this rig just like a dine or Mac.
 
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Cubeye

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I still use a swivel because that line does get twisted up with the flatfall action. I tie decent sd jam knots, so I don't see it as a point of failure any more than the line itself. I don't think I've had a knot fail in heavy line in forever. So short 130# windon to 200# fluoro or 300# mono bite/gill leader, combined at least 8 feet long.

Where do you put swivel? At the hook or the leader?

Instead of a 130# wind-on, why not use a 200# fluoro wind-on or a 300# mono wind-on? This would eliminate a couple of knots.

So you still use the EC2004? Or have you switched to the Owner Super Mutu?
 
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Where do you put swivel? At the hook or the leader?

Instead of a 130# wind-on, why not use a 200# fluoro wind-on or a 300# mono wind-on? This would eliminate a couple of knots.

So you still use the EC2004? Or have you switched to the Owner Super Mutu?

Now you’re thinking. Less is more. I use the Hayabusa magnum circle in 12/0. It’s plenty big and I don’t think there is a stronger hook out there.
 
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Now you’re thinking. Less is more. I use the Hayabusa magnum circle in 12/0. It’s plenty big and I don’t think there is a stronger hook out there.
Would you happen to know what size Owner Super Mutu would be equivalent to the Hayabusa 12/0 ?
 
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The hayabusa is a slightly larger hook. In the 3/0-6/0 sizes it runs about 1 size larger in the magnum series. I don’t buy larger owners so I can’t give a good reference there. I think I might have 8/0 in both. I’ll try to find them and post a comparison pic.
 
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Where do you put swivel? At the hook or the leader?

Instead of a 130# wind-on, why not use a 200# fluoro wind-on or a 300# mono wind-on? This would eliminate a couple of knots.

So you still use the EC2004? Or have you switched to the Owner Super Mutu?
Swivel at top of bite leader , I guess I could use a 300# window but I haven’t found it necessary. Basically I reuse my cow windon leaders that are too short by themselves, then add that bite leader. For hooks the 2004
Hooks are my go to hooks down to 8/0. The 13/0 and 11/0 hooks are strong enough to tow a car, the 8/0 and 9/0 are not as strong but they are a right mix of thinner wire and have a nice gap in the circle. They seem to work for me, several cows And many high 100s on them. When I go stealthy though I switch to the super mutus in 6/0 or ringless in 4/0 for super stealthy. Then back to demon circles under 3/0.
 
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Swivel at top of bite leader , I guess I could use a 300# window but I haven’t found it necessary. Basically I reuse my cow windon leaders that are too short by themselves, then add that bite leader. For hooks the 2004
Hooks are my go to hooks down to 8/0. The 13/0 and 11/0 hooks are strong enough to tow a car, the 8/0 and 9/0 are not as strong but they are a right mix of thinner wire and have a nice gap in the circle. They seem to work for me, several cows And many high 100s on them. When I go stealthy though I switch to the super mutus in 6/0 or ringless in 4/0 for super stealthy. Then back to demon circles under 3/0.
So you use your bridle rig for all sizes of "flat falls"?
80/100 gram to 500 grams?
For all sizes of blue fin?
 
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So you use your bridle rig for all sizes of "flat falls"?
80/100 gram to 500 grams?
For all sizes of blue fin?
Mainly based on fish size, so fish over 50-60lb, yes. Under, I will fish with assist hooks. The smaller flatfalls are mostly for smaller fish that sometimes mouth the baits, so again assist hooks.
 
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Same setup across the board. All my flatfalls have a spectra loop tied on so I can swap out in seconds.
Yes, this really is an advantage. You can change to a zebra pattern or different glow color or weight in no time without having to retie or recrimp the bite leader.
 
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Reading through here and reviving an old thread (we have beat this horse so hard!) Comparing notes on bridled flat falls. Haven’t used this method previously but gonna give it a go next weekend on my 3 day.

I have them set up with a 5 foot 200lb flouro leader with a 500# swivel for connecting to 100# braid. 10/0 Super Mutu crimped on, jig attached with 200# Kevlar and splitting/swivel so the jig flutters and spins 100% free of the hook/leader. Zero load goes on the jig, it’s straight 200# leader crimped to the hook.

Thoughts?

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    The distance between the big hook and FF looks to be about 3-4 inches. A bit long for my liking but I doubt it makes any difference.

    Question for the group... what's the benefit of ringed hooks when using crimps?
     
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    Pjstevko

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    Reading through here and reviving an old thread (we have beat this horse so hard!) Comparing notes on bridled flat falls. Haven’t used this method previously but gonna give it a go next weekend on my 3 day.

    I have them set up with a 5 foot 200lb flouro leader with a 500# swivel for connecting to 100# braid. 10/0 Super Mutu crimped on, jig attached with 200# Kevlar and splitting/swivel so the jig flutters and spins 100% free of the hook/leader. Zero load goes on the jig, it’s straight 200# leader crimped to the hook.

    Thoughts?

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    Catch any fish on your bridled flat falls?
     
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