Fish handling for each LR boat?

Bud B

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Anywhere to find how each boat handles there catch in one easy place instead of calling each landing/boat?

Do they have the rubber mats, bleed, gut/gill, brain/pith, etc. When do they brine and when do they start using the RSW. How long can they RSW. This type of thing. For each of the LR boats.

Any help appreciated.
 

screamingreel

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Bud,

I do not have all the information you desire, but hopefully will clarify the fish handling situation.

If I am not mistaken, all of the following boats have RSW and will usually use it for up to 7-8 days depending on the fish size and type. Sometimes they will have both RSW & brine available.

From what I understand, only the Royal Star does the full Taniguchi method; bleed, gut/gill, brain/pith prior to storage in the RSW slammers. Most of the others perform most steps except the wire down the spine (pithing) depending on the fish size.

The boats listed in bold font also use rubber matts or have a rubberized deck.

If someone knows otherwise, please let us know!

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Regards,

- Jeff
 

vu308

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Guys,

Could you explain RSW? Also, does the deck hand perform all the above mentioned items like bleed, gut, and gill as a SOP, or do you have to ask?
 

Ready4TheYellow

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Guys,

Could you explain RSW? Also, does the deck hand perform all the above mentioned items like bleed, gut, and gill as a SOP, or do you have to ask?
Refrigerated Salt Water hold. Keeps your catch fresh as the day you caught it. The Royal Star is the only boat I believe that uses this as their SOP. Other boats will do it on request.

All fish are Bled as a SOP.
 

CHUBACA6

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After getting off an 8 day last year the the catch was not in the best of shape.After picking it up from the processer I asked who consistently handles the catch better of all the LR boats and the response was Royal Star and American Angler in that order.
 

JonesyPHD

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I did a 7 day in Sept/Oct on the Star with Jeff/Screamingreel...I came home with close to 200lbs of "perfect" fish. I have made everything from sashimi, to seared, to poke, to BBQ'd. I was very impressed at the way the crew "specifically" makes an effort to enhance the quality of the fish going into the hold.
 

Holi-e-Mackeral

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The RP typically goes to the RSW after the first couple of days on a long trip.. I do believe they told me that they can RSW for 7 or 8 days ???

They will gill/gut the fish.. and quickly get it into the tank...

It is a night and day difference in the quality of the product as compared to the brine..

Tight lines,

Jeff
 

Bud B

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Really appreciate the replies guys. Great info Screamingreel and a excellent starting point for me to do a little more research.

I'll post the outcome.
 

G-Spot

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The Intrepid bleeds, guts and gills then RSW pretty standard from my last two trips.

That being said, most all boats like to keep the big ones whole for glamor shots at the docks especially if it might be jackpot fish.... I have not been on the Star, but both the American Angler, and the Intrepid like to keep the big ones whole... they will bleed, but will only gill and gut if you ask.....

Also four years ago when I was on the American Angler in a in a wide open bite of fish from about 70 to 180 and they said they did not have time to gill and gut, so they were bleeding them and then putting them in the RSW....

I think there is some flexibility depending on how busy it is.... Trying to gaff fish, tend to the catch and get it cooling in the RSW is more important than gill and gut every fish....
 

old salt

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i just thawed some yellowtail from a 8 day last may on the royal star.I ate some as hamachi and it was as good as the sushi bar.the quality is in the care and time the RS puts into the fish handling.
 
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The Apollo does a fantastic job of taking care of your catch.
How do I know--The Processors told me.
You may want to check out Fishermans Processing, they give you an option of 3mm or 5mm bags, plus smoking services and jerky.

Deep Water Sailor
 

Mike G ...

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Was on same May 28 trip and ditto Mark (Old Salt) re Royal Star. Defrosted and served some BFT seered and sashimi two weeks ago two extended family and was in excellent shape. Also gave a package of smoked Alabacore to my Dad to take home which he munched on for a week with superlative grades.

All the RS deckhands are pros, and can recall on on troll stop with more than 20-30 BFT on the deck in what seemed like a few minutes and more coming over the rail, there was what appeared to be a very organized and concerted effort to care for the fish during mass pandemoneum and excitement (to me). With the other crew mostly attending to the anglers and gaffing along with Drew out of the galley and Tim off the bridge, deckhand Sean in particular appeared to work like a machine to quickly bleed, gill, gut, wire down the spine and promptly tag correctly each fish before into the RSW. All done on the back deck as they come aboard with none put in the box to deal with later when things calmed down. Amazing crew hustle.

Mike
 

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Just returned from a 10 day trip aboard the Independence. I cannot say enough how pleased I was with the fish handeling aboard this vessel. The Yellow Fin Tuna were instantly "spiked" in the brain....plithed, stomachs flushed empty with pressured salt water & instantly placed into the R.S.W...fish were not gutted nor gilled. Upon arriving back at San Diego, I utilized "5 Star" fish processing company. Very pleased with their facilities (New & Very Clean, can view the entire cleaning process). I live with a Japanese woman. Her company is entirely Japanese employees....I gave her the processed tuna for her co-workers to try...& every one stated the tuna was the "Best" they ever had....including the Sushi restaurants in Japan...The product was truely "Sashimi Grade Tuna"....I was also able to catch numerous Groupers...10 lb average...& a 40 lb Amberjack....just had the Amberjack for dinner tonight.............EXCELLENT!!!.....for you that have never fished Clarion Island...I would strongly suggest you go.....The quality of fishing is like going back in time 100 years......makes me SAD!!! to come home to San Francisco & think about .....How things have collasped!!!!.....Mark
 

etwizard

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I can not speak for what happened on the AA four years ago, but... the crew on the AA for the last two trips (11 day) took GREAT care of all our fish. They were very quick dispatching the tuna, bleeding the fish, gutting and gilling. All the fish that were jackpot contenders were weighed before they were gutted and gilled. After all that they were lickety split into the RSW.
I've never eaten better tuna.
Just my experience.

The Intrepid bleeds, guts and gills then RSW pretty standard from my last two trips.

That being said, most all boats like to keep the big ones whole for glamor shots at the docks especially if it might be jackpot fish.... I have not been on the Star, but both the American Angler, and the Intrepid like to keep the big ones whole... they will bleed, but will only gill and gut if you ask.....

Also four years ago when I was on the American Angler in a in a wide open bite of fish from about 70 to 180 and they said they did not have time to gill and gut, so they were bleeding them and then putting them in the RSW....

I think there is some flexibility depending on how busy it is.... Trying to gaff fish, tend to the catch and get it cooling in the RSW is more important than gill and gut every fish....
 

wahoodad

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I can not speak for what happened on the AA four years ago, but... the crew on the AA for the last two trips (11 day) took GREAT care of all our fish. They were very quick dispatching the tuna, bleeding the fish, gutting and gilling. All the fish that were jackpot contenders were weighed before they were gutted and gilled. After all that they were lickety split into the RSW.
I've never eaten better tuna.
Just my experience.

I have heard from a couple of processors the American Angler has the best quality. There are times when the fish is raining on, and perhaps you cannot gut and gill them.
Most times they do.
 

G-Spot

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I can not speak for what happened on the AA four years ago, but... the crew on the AA for the last two trips (11 day) took GREAT care of all our fish. They were very quick dispatching the tuna, bleeding the fish, gutting and gilling. All the fish that were jackpot contenders were weighed before they were gutted and gilled. After all that they were lickety split into the RSW.
I've never eaten better tuna.
Just my experience.
As stated above it was wide open and they didn't have time. Brian even explained to us that he was more concerned with getting them in the RSW and not having them sit on deck, some had not been gilled and gutted. As stated I think flexibility is key if they are too busy..... some of mine were, some weren't... I could not tell the difference in taste.

Definitely not saying they didn't take great care of the fish... the quality was awesome.... The gut and gill thing has not always been done, and maybe it has become even more mainstream.

We did plug the boat in three days and only had enough room for some yellows as we head up the line....