First long range trip advice

Discussion in 'San Diego Long Range fishing Reports' started by Tckwilson, Aug 12, 2018.

  1. Fishybuzz

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    But it is not at all like being hundreds of miles offshore, day after day, dealing with whatever weather comes up. And as good as the night is in Panama, there is absolutely nothing that compares with the night sky at 2am far over the horizon as you drop deep for whatever might be swimming by.



    This IMO is the very essence of long range fishing......

    the other is resort fishing, great stuff but much different on so many levels......you don't meet and get to know great people is one of the biggest differences....
     
  2. Bill W

    Bill W tunaholic

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    Rich G has got all the bases covered. If you were a local guy i would say try a 3 day, but flying in a 8-10 day will give you a shot at everything. But the less passenger load trips means the best experience.
     
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  3. Tom Honaker

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    Whatever duration of trip you decide to go on, listen to the crew, fish hard, and most importantly, have fun and enjoy every moment. Make friends, take it all in, and hopefully walk off that vessel a much better angler than you were before! Take lots of pictures! Most of us get caught up on the catching aspect, get caught up in the , WOW, what a great adventure aspect! That is what long range fishing is truly about!!!! Good luck my friend!
     
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  4. ifish42na

    ifish42na No Bad Days

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    One of the best trips ever. 22 first time LR’s fishing along with veterans who have done 30 or more trips. Pin on a sardine and get to it. None of this work your way up BS.
     
  5. ZZZZZ

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    That's how I'm going to roll again with brodowns or boat gear, thanks brother ;) Without owning big gear that could pay for 2 big trips. Flouro, 7691s and super mutus. Borrow the boats crimpers and I do like satos so packing those. Teflon tubing, 2 pl68s, 3 torpedos, 5 hoo jigs, and bait rigs bought on the boat. Oh glue

    All I have left is a TI30 enhanced for bigger fish
     
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  6. Elitetv1958

    Elitetv1958 Well-Known "Member"

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    Rules for those new to Long Range:
    1. Show up 10 minutes before boarding and insist on boarding first so you can get a primo tackle box spot.
    2. Be sure to keep all three of your tackle boxes and your reel bag on the primo rack.
    3. Leave your gear on the deck. The deck hands will take care of it.
    4. Sign up for several trolling teams. That way you’ll have a better chance at more fish.
    5. After you use the head, close the door. That way no one else will get it dirty before you use it again.
    6. As a newbie, you are entitled to get a bait from the well first. Just elbow others out of the way. Don’t worry. They’ll understand.
    7. When fishing while drifting, go ahead and sit right in the corner. If anyone needs to get around you, tell them to be careful, you’re about to get bit.
    8. Be sure to fish with 15 or 20 pound test. That way, it will take you an hour to bring in that 14 pound yellowtail, while everyone else is watching the 60 pound bluefin breezer about 200 yards upswell.
    9. You don’t need to mark down all those sodas and beers. It’s optional.
    10. At the end of the trip, only sort your fish at the landing.
     
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  7. JohnTFT

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    My first trip was a 10 day. Myself and 3 of my friends went on the Excel Christmas trip. Once we left the bait receiver this guy comes up and tells us how we are supposed to behave on the trip. Bait tank etiquette and the like. He had some good points and we showed him respect.

    Where we lost respect for him and his group was when we were told we should have fished a 5 day or some shit. Easier more rail time and some of the other remarks that have been made here.

    So we answered back the best way these 4 LR googans could.

    My first fish was a 261. Backed it up with two more in the high teens.

    My other buddies all had cows. One had a 313 and a 224.

    Lower banks - sardine fishing at its hardest.

    We had a blast.

    I have done 21 trips of 15 days or more since that introduction.
     
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  8. JohnTFT

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    Thats it for me BHP. That trip was insane fun on some really good fishing.

    Tie on a hook, pin on a bait and get bit.
     
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  9. Bill W

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    11. Be sure to bring all your spinning reels and when the big ones bite you will be admired by your fellow anglers with your fishing skill as they watch you from the upper deck.
     
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  10. Squid Sammich

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    Tim a few years ago I was trying to make the same decision you are and I had the exact desire you do, big tuna on a long trip. I followed the “get broken in on a shorter trip” way of thinking and took a 10 day in late Oct-early Nov.

    The trip was good. We caught a big variety of fish - yellowtail, grouper, yellowtail, wahoo, yellowtail, mahi, yellowtail, small tuna and oh yeah yellowtail. The people I met were fantastic - some friends I made I talk to regularly to this day. The boat was eye opening - the comfort, the food, the service. It really was a life changing experience as someone previously stated.

    But there was one thing. I still had this urge to catch big tuna and all the 15 lb yellowtail and football yellowfin from Cedros to Alijos did nothing to scratch that itch. I flew back home having the fishing experience of my life but wanting so much more.

    The problem was with these long range schedules most of the time you have to book 6 months, a year, even more in advance. All the money I spent on this 10 day I could have put on a 15 and would have been 2/3 of the way there. But money can be made again, we all spend it, lose it, and make it again. The one thing you can never make more of, never replace, is time.

    I don’t know how old you are but I know you said you are retired. If you are young enough and fit enough to make a trip that is not the trip you ultimately want and then have to wait another 6 months or more likely a year to go back for what you wanted then by all means jump on an 8 day. Just consider the one thing that nobody is mentioning. Time. And how you want to spend it. Waiting for another chance, or doing what you wanted the first time?
     
  11. FishRock

    FishRock I've posted enough I should edit this section

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    Really depends on your interest. If you want to try the variety that is available and possibly catch a larger YFT then a 7-10 day fall trip is the answer and the October 10 day trips lately have a good chance of running into bigger YFT outside of the Mag Bay area. If a shot at a cow YFT with a few wahoo mixed in is your interest then a 14-16 day trip down below is it. No need to work up if you are reasonably fit, can stand to ride the boat 4 days down and 4 days back and enjoy getting to know new people.

    Matt is right on, really depends on what you want to accomplish. If it is big YFT then pack some clothes and go long and be ready to get skunked. It can happen. My first trip was an 8 day, I remember more about the people than the fishing. All the rest have been 14 day. No matter what just borrow boat gear. Pretty much free and will get the job done well. Be sure to confirm that they know you are new and need gear before you get on the boat. Once you have booked a trip and finally board the boat then sit back and enjoy the ride. It will be memorable.
     
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  12. canyonman

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    In 2012 I took a buddy with me , first time long range . It was the 15 day thanksgiving trip on the Indy . Long story short , he had a great time caught two cows and has made 4 long trips with me since . On my first long range trip a 10 day in 2005 , I was already hooked prior to ever wetting a line . After the epic fishing I booked a 10 day for the same date in 2006 . We caught fish but not the stuff we caught the year before . I was disappointed but I should have listened to my new found friends I made the year before . Brad , Reid and Dave who said you want big fish jump on a 17 day on the RP . In 2007 I finally went long ,15 days and caught my fill of biguns . If its big YFT you are after don't mess around and go long . Bad trips happen its fishing but for me it just fuels the fire to do it again . Good luck
     
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  13. Steve K

    Steve K Hey, I'm gettin' bit...

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    The least technical trip, fishing wise, will be a Spring 8 day. Usually lots of Yellowtail fishing, numerous methods there. Tuna, probably smaller, more manageable and biting pretty well. Chances to learn live bait fishing as well as the very productive YoYo jig. If this option looks good, I highly recommend one of the 3 early trips on the Angler. They’ll treat you right, including free loaner tackle, Avet reels on Calstar rods.

    Take the same 8 day in the fall, guaranteed frustration factors. Learning curve on Wahoo, we’re all still trying to figure them out. Tuna fishing at Guadalupe can be tough, learning to try flylining a bait in goofy current conditions and dealing with the disappointment associated with losing to the sharks.

    On the other hand here we go with a great story about a couple of buddies from Germany who fished with us on a 14 day this year in January. Kite turns were working OK, but one of the guys fished the chunk and nailed 1st place in the jackpot with a 285.
     
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  14. Olddog8

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    What Rich said
     
  15. Squid Sammich

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    What Rich said, and I value Rich as a good contributor here and experienced fisherman BUT he said what the downside is with the long trips and not the plus side. Like a subliminal don't go long post.

    The plus side is catching what you have your heart set on - a huge yellowfin tuna. Is it guaranteed? No. But nothing in this life is. You can play that 10 day fall trip shit hoping you make the lower banks but I was extremely disappointed going that route and I bet you will be too. Think about what you want and go for it. There is no reason to be intimidated here, they make these trips very user friendly. PM me if you have questions, I live about an hour from Houston and can help you with all sorts of questions.
     
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  16. Brass_Slacks

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    I’d personally like to see Junkyard Bob and Art Green on that trip. Maybe throw in ol’ Coach just for fun.
    It would make for a good reality show. Like survivor but instead of being voted off a surly octogenarian would elbow over the cap rail.
     
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  17. hucklongfin

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    I did my annual 10 day at the end of Sept last year and we dropped down to check out the lower banks and they were empty. I did another 10 day at the beginning of Nov and there were cows on the lower banks. I caught my first cow and super cow! It’s not just the length of trip but when you go. For a shot at big fish on a 10 day go later in the fall. I’ve done a couple of 3 1/2 day trips to PV in Dec of last year and Mar this year and caught cows both times. I’m going back again in Dec!
     
  18. Fishybuzz

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    OK here we go....I have been doing both types of trips for over 15 years at least one 8 day and one 15 day a year sometimes a few more 15 day trips sometimes a few more 8 day trips and IMO both are great in very different ways but at least one of each every year........ IMO they are very different ..... I know several people who prefer one or the other....some do not want to pull on a cow sized fish for a hour or two or travel 4 days down and 4 days back and some times not get a bite for a day or two but for some it is worth it for a shot at a huge fish.....I know many anglers, good anglers who have been trying for years some many years to catch a cow and have not....but to them the quest keeps them coming back.....others like the variety and the fact you are possibly fishing 7 out of the 8 days for a wide variety of fish and have no interest in a cow tuna,,,,,,this gentleman has never been on a long range boat or exposed to fishing the rail with 30 other people or fly lining a bait with a large lever drag or how to fish a the rail....yes there are many anglers who on their first trip caught a fish of a life time.....but I promise there are 5 for everyone of those first timers catch very little...if anything... especially if they are a VERY first first timer..... I read the op's post and before he puts down over 5K not including tip, flight and hotel maybe see if be really enjoys this style of fishing...not everyone does....Basil both you and John both had big fish experience before you came out west so you had some idea of what you were getting into.....just sayin....but then I could be way off in my assessment .

    So what does the OP think...????
     
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  19. Tom Honaker

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    Do everything just opposite of that post, it will at least put you in the game!
     
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  20. JohnTFT

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    A very accurate statement. As are all of your points.

    I love the sea days and figuring out how to get bit in a pick bite.

    Not for everyone but for me it is a major motivation to come back for more.

    And, some really good friendships made over the years.
     
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