FG KNOT HELP TO GET CORRECT - Super Glue?

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  1. geebee

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    Ya know this has to win the prize for usefulness.

    I read many posts noting cinch the knot until it changes color but never came close to understanding how to do that until I reviewed your "#1 mistake" video - I believe I actually get it now.

    Now I be looking for the the 6 wrap Rizzutto tut to lock and finish it...
     
  2. yessokk

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    View the 3rd post on pg. 1 by
    nefarious235 Dan
    Watch until the end he shows how to do it.

    Walt
     
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    Just for the record, I tac glue all my knots. Bimini twist, uni, surgeons, everything. Insurance.
     
  4. Shewillbemine

    Shewillbemine "should of" is NOT a thing

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    Exactly what you mean. My pet peeve when I watch videos about fishing knots is when the guy in the video decides to talk for the first 5 minutes. The best videos or the ones that just go straight to the knot and close. Not this I'm holding clear mono 5 feet from the camera while wearing a white shirt.
     
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    Here's another video about the rizutto finish



    jump to about 530
     
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    I watched that video several times...was completely lost at "the most important part of the knot"

    but thedonnguyen BRIGGSY'S FG KNOT rizutto finish (dynamite camerawork) at about 5:30 kept me moving forward...
     
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  7. aguachico

    aguachico I've posted enough I should edit this section

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    I keep mine simple. no glue. no fancy finish. Landed 3 40# BFT on a fg knot, short leader, major head shakes. Knot was perfect. 65# max cuarto, 60# floro. 20# of drag.
     
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    Thanks Don,
    The best video yet on the FG Rizzutto finish. Going to Bookmark that one.
    Walt
     
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    Here's a few youtube links (there's many more) which show the various methods to tie the FG knot.







    Basically, there are 4 methods I'm aware of, there's probably more.

    1) Teeth method
    2) Triangle Over/Under method
    3) Triangle Twist and Push method
    4) No Tension method

    After trying all of them, I prefer to use the Triangle Over/Under. The No Tension method comes in a close second.

    I tie my 20 or so wraps (depending on line diameter); close the wraps wih a single half hitch; pull tight on main lines; tie a 5-7 turn Rizzuto.

    Like many things, it's all personal preference. GOOD LUCK!
     
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    I agree with the comments above. After your first half hitch you need to cinch your initial wraps so they "bite" into the mono/fluoro. If done correctly the wraps will appear to change color. As someone mentioned, I recommend a couple dowels or pieces of pvc pipe to cinch your wraps. Once your wraps are cinched 3 or 4 more half hitches are all that are needed. If I do 20 turns on my wraps I do 10 half hitches then finish with a 4 or 5 turn Risotto. I don't like to get any heat close to my line so I don't use a lighter. Most of the time I use "Loon" UV Knot Sense and a small UV flashlight to cure it. It is not as stiff as super glue and you can make the end of the knot really smooth.

    I don't necessarily use the FG because of it's strength but I like the way it goes through the eyes compared to almost all other knots.
     
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    Point about heating the mono end to create a ball - I guess the purpose of that is to create a nub to help prevent the mono/floro from slipping through the knot?

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    I have to wonder if that step's even necessary on a FG knot - if the mono-floro leader slips along the initial 20 cinched wraps, the knot has much bigger problems. Would not the braid in a properly cinched FG knot have grooved the mono/floro and locked the knot into place making the need for a nub an irrelevant step?

    I can see how a knub may help some other types of knots - but not on the FG - the melted ball in the line just creates a bump in the knot that needs to clear the guides both casting and retrieving.

    Just an observation...
     
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    It's also to make sure the mono doesn't cut into the braid or have any sharp edges to mess with the braid
     
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    I think all the half hitches defeats the purpose of the knot, which is the small size.

    When it's tightened down properly I haven't had a problem .
     
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    I spent a couple of hours today doing variations of the FG. The best so far with 50 braid and 25 mono (XXX) is an FG with Pena. 7/14 and lock with 2 wraps. Surgeon (2 wraps) then a rizzuto lock. The braid tag end go thru the 5 wrap rizzuto. Before cinching I slide the braid and butted to the mono surgeon. I’m getting consistent 28-29 pounds. My knot to the digital scale breaks before the connection so I tied double SD.

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    here's another video

     
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    Tie the knot you’re comfortable with. I can tie a FG in about a minute in good light and probably 5 minutes in low light. If I had time I would tie a FG every time but in a hot bite, a 5 turns surgeon worked well as long as the knot is outside the guides.
     
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    I use a Zippo to burn the mono I let the Zippo run for alittle bit and then use the hot windshield to melt the mono
     
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    All I use is FG with rizzuto finish. No half hitch, no glue. Remember to pull the knot hard before you cut the tag end till the braid changes color. Had 65 lb braid on 30 lb flouro and got hooked a 100 ~ 150 lb black sea bass using dropper loop. It's a hell of a fight and the knot was intact after released the sea bass near surface.
     

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