FG KNOT HELP TO GET CORRECT - Super Glue?

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  1. geebee

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    I'm trying to get my FG knot figured out.

    I'm doing 20 line turns on the bottom, 15 overhand on the top, plus a double knot on the top.

    The pic shows 50lb Seaguar fluorocarbon and 65lb Power Pro Super8 Slick.

    In my photo, please see the 'wet' drop, that's how my drop dried.

    I'm wonder in anyone has experimented and tested using crazy glue to keep the end of the knot from loosening (my unglued knots seem prone to loosening and am not sure I am doing it right.

    Note I am taking great pains to not let my glue bleed into my main line (is getting glue on the main line even an issue to avoid)?

    PS: THIS KNOT IS BAD ON SEVERAL POINTS I am trying to get right:

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    Try it this way.
    It’s quick and easy to tie even on a moving boat. Never failed me.

     
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    The way, the light. I do put just the smallest it's bitsy drop on the rizutto finish to lock it.
     
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    I used to painstakingly tie the FG the night before my trips but now I just use the John Collins and tie it ANYTIME. Just as good IMHO! Easier than a Double Uni and passes guides almost as easily. I’m a convert.
     
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    I find that a 3-turn overhand knot at the end stays in place pretty well.
    But if you want it finished better, a drop of tac glue will take care of it.
     
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    Lake I've posted enough I should edit this section

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    You should cinch the coils down until they change color. I wouldn't bother with so many overhand knots. I usually do 3 or 4 then finish with a 5 turn barrel knot. I don't feel the need for the crazy glue but it won't hurt, and it doesn't hurt if it touches your mono or fluoro.
     
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    I burn the end of the mono to create a catch edge, extra prevention from slipping. It gets covered up pretty good.

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    after you tie your first half hitch, you need to pull it under tension until it turns color (as noted above). I only use 2 or 3 half hitches, trim the mono and melt the end, then a 3 turn Rizutto. Pull the tags good and snug, then coat with Tac-glue.
    I don't trim my spectra tag until the glue has dried so I can nub it close with a razor blade.
     
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    Your knot looks great, how do you tie it off (lock it from unraveling)?

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    Great, thank you and the 'noted above' for the tips... I will post an update I've done my homework.

    < crazy glue ... won't hurt, and it doesn't hurt if it touches your mono or fluoro.
    < 3-turn overhand knot
    < 5 turn barrel knot.
    < 3 turn Risotto
    < tac glue
     
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    I finish with 2 turn rizzuto a half hitch and 3 turn rizzuto. Maybe the last rizzuto lock unravel (rarely) but by that time it’s also time to change leader/top shot.
     
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    I should add the knot-tying video tutorials are 10 times more difficult for me to follow when the camera is in front of the knot Vs seeing through the tyer's point of view....
     
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    Use a mirror.
     
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    I think that's the same reason why I couldn't learn from "Just Dance" PlayStation game (they present a backwards perspective), but in video it called a "flip" horizontal which the better players should be able to do.

    Then the knot (and rod-building) videos seem to be lacking the extreme closeups and freeze frames that would really be useful to slow learners like me...
     
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    You don't need all that. Do the 20 turns, 2 overhand knots, pull tight, 1 more overhand knot. Don't over think it. If that doesn't hold, you're doing it wrong. Just watch the Youtube vidoes...I don't see any of what you posted.
     
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    What is that lighter called MB Custom Lurers uses in mono burn - it has a groove in its shield to protect the knot from the fire?

    Can you imagine that video with some extreme closeups...


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    BE sure to study the attached link below,,,, very very important.
    Would highly recommend cinching tools to pull this knot tight. It's difficult to apply adequate pulling pressure with your bare hands. Also the 6 wrap Rizzutto finish does not need glue but it does not hurt.
     
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    Been tying the FG knot with 4 half hitch knots without failure. As someone suggested up there, cinch the braid down after one or two half hitch. The FG section should get darker. From there tie two more half hitch and cinch that down. Continue to cinch the braid and FC/mono down real good and cut the ends. No fails yet, but haven’t had anything pull more than 20lb of drag.
     
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