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  1. EJ Swanny

    EJ Swanny I've posted enough I should edit this section

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    I like the albright as well, never had a failure. I'm certainly open to new knots, faster and better than the albright.......
     
  2. TonyG

    TonyG I've posted enough I should edit this section

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    FG knot
     
  3. Crunchy

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    I watched some youtube videos on that FG knot. Most of them were at least 5 minutes to tie the dang thing. Don't have that kind of time when the bite is hot.
     
  4. TooManyHobbies

    TooManyHobbies The guy that makes the glass stuff

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    Get a few under your belt and it's pretty simple/quick. I had one fail on me this year, but I probably didn't cinch it down correctly.
     
  5. TonyG

    TonyG I've posted enough I should edit this section

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    If it takes you 5 minutes to tie that simple knot, then for sure it is not for you. Completely agree.
    It's also possible to have FG's on your rigs when you go out (because they are stronger and pass the guides better) and then you mend breaks in the heat of the action with the knot you can tie more quickly on the water.

    But whatever. FG is simple, strongest and thinnest.
     
  6. FishPimpII

    FishPimpII Dreaming about the next boat...

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    It does have good strength but to go with that as your go to you must like the clunk clunk clunk sound that big ole knot makes going through the guides!!!
     
  7. G-Spot

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    Have you actually tied it? It’s very small and doesn’t clunk, clunk, clunk.... it’s super simple 6 up and six back.... as small as the FG, fast and easy.... I’ve tied a lot of knots and the newest trendy knot always came up on my long range trips....

    Knot testing has shown that the knots are only good if they are tied correctly...Many guys don’t always get things sinched correct, or overlay their twists correct, etc.... the Bimini twist for example, many guys put too many twists in their line and decrease its strength..... 12-20 turns is all it takes.... some guys feel more is better and they make the knot longer and defeat itself by making it weaker...
     
  8. FishPimpII

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    Have tied it for fun but didn’t stick with it because no matter how strong it is a knot where the mono doubles back andd wrsps around is thicker than I like especially if Fishing heavier mono. If you don’t mind the knot size then good on you.

    Thunk thunk thunk...
    :fighting0061:
     
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  9. G-Spot

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    Sure you have.... I would not use it with heavy mono to begin with.... I would use a knot less connection, I use it for quick easy tying of leader while fishing... the actual Bristol is only single layer, the improved is up and back, but the way they lay is single since you lay the twists between each other.... if it is done correct there is never double thick mono.... so you didn’t tie your improved Bristol correctly....

    Here’s a little video of a quick, easy, strong, fast, knot....

     
  10. FishPimpII

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    I’m not saying it doesn’t work to you.. and since you are never wrong you probably shouldnt watch from 2:25 on in that video so you can still say that in that knot the mono isn’t doubled backed over itself...
    Not a terrible knot. Just not nearly as thin through the guides as an FG since even similar weight mono/braid the mono is much thicker than the braid.
     
  11. G-Spot

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    The many debates I have had with you shows clearly you possess the same thing you accuse me of....You have never been wrong either.... it does take the tag end and slide back down, but it doesn’t actually end up with double thick mojo as you are now changing what you originally state in your response above that I actually replied to....

    You are now manipulating and changing what you actually said to be “right”. You stated that it doubles back down and wraps back around creating a double thick mono, which is absolutely incorrect for the Bristol knot. The Improved Bristol wraps up 4-6, then back the same number of wraps alternating between the wraps up, so when it’s pulled tight it is still only single.. you have not tied this knot and looked at it.... and nice try on trying to change your story and referring me back to the video at 2:25 on..... go out to your garage, tie a Bimini if you know how..... then tie the Bristol... its a pretty small knot.... not quite as small as the fg, but I have seen many guys fail on the fg. They don’t quite get it cinched down and the line (especially flour slides out... On one long range trip at least a half dozen guys lost fish when their line came apart at the connection... it’s like a nail Knot, if you don’t cinch it and see the braid become translucent it can and will slide out...

    Anyhow, I’ll stick with my big clunky knot... simply threw it out for others, obviously won’t work for you even if you have to lie to be right....

    For those who use the FG, it is best to wrap your tag end of braid around something when you cinch to get good leverage, you can actually see the braid turn shiny as it gets real tight on the mono/flouro, this is when it has good strength and is basically dented into the leader, so it won’t slip...

    Tight lines until our next one! :-)
     
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  12. FishPimpII

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    I’m wrong all the time.
    Just ask my wife and kids!!!
     
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  13. carrie's bait boy

    carrie's bait boy 2 hulls are better than 1

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    We asked. They said there was this one instance you were right. Heard they made you a plaque for the wall to commorate the moment? But then again, I might be wrong
     
  14. FishPimpII

    FishPimpII Dreaming about the next boat...

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    You’re right. Only I had to make the plaque myself.
     
  15. DH10

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    Bristol and the improved/modified Albright/Bob Sands Knot....all easy...all considerably weaker than the FG knot. They never fare that well in the Sportfishing magazine knot challenges. I can tie the FG knot OK, but it really is all about getting the proper tension and seating of the braid on the mono/fluoro, which just takes practice.

    https://www.saltstrong.com/articles/how-to-tie-the-fg-knot/

    In reality, the breaking strength of the knot is seldom the weak point, unless it is poorly tied and fails. Fishing 65 pound braid and heavy leader, most break offs are from knicks in the leader or the braid.....just my 02Cents
     
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  16. Marlin Mike

    Marlin Mike pimpin aint cheap

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    I tried a new knot this year and swear by it. Haven’t found the video yet but look it up easy to tie and quick.

    The improved balloon knot.
     
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    makairaa I've posted enough I should edit this section

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    They are only 5 minutes because they are stopping to talk about what they are doing. Once you have tied it a few times it takes just over a minute to tie.
     
  18. TonyG

    TonyG I've posted enough I should edit this section

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    Describe the "improved" part. :rofl:
     
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    Marlin Mike pimpin aint cheap

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    Double over hand to finish it off
     
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    Roll the Bones Dr. Fong

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    How and where do you lubricate so it doesnt get stuck.
     

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