Discussion in 'San Diego Long Range fishing Reports' started by Atuna, Mar 16, 2015.
more to come...
This was an awesome thing to be a part of. Garry is the mad scientist. The design team was impressive. A PHd in Math. A guy who designed missiles for a living giving advice on how to stabilize the camera!
You can learn a great deal about Tuna behavior from watching the videos. How they try to gain their freedom. Some of the mysterious break offs occur. How to improve your rigging. Different materials different length leaders etc...
Was awesome to see it after the cow hit the deck. The equivalent of walking on the moon long range style.
It was great to see first hand. Glad it turned out so well.
Bravo Garry!!! Great work.
Gary that was OKKKKKKK ..... very cool stuff...... I remember you guys hooking up cameras for the kite. Very cool stuff.
Super video, Gary. Interesting to see more of what is going on. See you next January.
That's awesome! Love the part when the kite bait gets destroyed......thanks!
Super SICK Vid Garry!
That video is bad ass! Did the fish try to rub the line off on the bottom?
Not this one. I'll be posting up the other ones soon where it tries to do that.
Reminds you that sometimes really big tuna can't resist the double trouble. Get those crimps right gentlemen...
When I try to go Full Screen the video disappears-except for the soundtrack.
Nice footage. Is it me or was anyone else starting to feel sorry for the tuna? lol. That camera is pretty sick. I guess you slide it down on the line?
It's actually rigged to the mainline about 8 feet from the hook.
I cried. Was rooting for the fish.
Sorry ...atsa tu bad for yu!
Water Wolf 3, Tuna 0
This has caused me to change how I will rig my kite set up, i am now going to use a 10' mono/fc leader to the swivel instead of tying spectra direct o the swivel.
No doubt my double sardine rig will be FC. The kite is definitely NOT a reaction bite, although the distressed baits do call attention. Part of the videos that ended up "on the floor" clearly shows multiple tuna circling the bait on every video. Sometime they flat out just miss.
It's tough sometime to keep the correct bait position on the kite. I'll take any advantage I can ...that being said, did you notice exactly how "invisible" the FC was during the fight.
I've wondered why different boats prefer different setups on the kite. I can see where using straight spectra to the leader is lighter, when there's not much wind to keep the kite up. On the other hand, Excel (at least) prefers 20+ feet of mono between the spectra and the leader. I guess the boats are individual in that way as in every other.
I like the idea of 10-20 feet of mono, for shock resistance if nothing else. But after seeing the video, I agree. I don't want a big fish using its tail to cut on the spectra. Plus, I have been taught now to use relatively short legs on the double trouble...say three feet per leg. That is supposed to prevent the "loose" leg from tangling other lines in the course of a fight, and it makes sense. But in THAT case having about 10 feet of mono is (in my opinion) a very good idea.
The "double trouble" rig in the videos is a 3 foot rig. The strongest mono I know of is probably Momoi XH. Sailfish/Marlin/Swordfish stuff. I don't know that I need to resort to that as the Soft Steel came out unscathed.
I'm thinking a 18" to 24" double trouble, though, lord only knows that will have its own issues.
For me, it's Seaguar Blue Label, 300#. Period. That's why I bring two coils of the stuff with me.
Overkill? Maybe. Ask me again when I bring in a 280 on it...
I get the fact that 300# mono for terminal kite connections is the way to go with your junk hanging out of the water where it cant be seen by the fish boiling on it anyway, might as well go heavy. How about your other leaders when not on the kite is 200# in your bag at all or do you make all your leaders with the 300# stuff?
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