Excel trip July 5th 8 day

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  1. floydlpackard

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    I gave an short on the water report during the trip. There is another thread going asking for some more reports and details. Let me see if I can fill in a few things.

    Wahoo fishing was good at the rocks, nothing at the alijos banks. We were the first boat in there in about 4 days. Maybe a little over half came on the troll, I caught one on a bloody runner Jimmy bomb after working at it. I got bumped once on a small Chrome and purple BA jig. All the rest came on bait as soon as the captain would give the OK to throw in. Usually the first ones in got the bite. The Excel does some things a little different in that no fishing the slide and since they don't use the live wells, only about 4 people can bait up at a time. There is good and bad in that. You get great baits with the dip net but the line up can be a bummer knowing the first in tended to get bit. I talked to a guy that fished the Shogun and hit the rocks right after us. They got way more on the bombs and jigs. Perhaps they could fish the slide sooner.

    After the first several rotations it was clear that the Nomad DTX was the lure that was getting bit. I was last to board the boat so my trolling rotation was not up for a long time. So I lent my purple fusilier as a boat lure and it along with any other DTX proceeded to get bit. Other lures were trolled, mauraders and skirts, they would be bit once in a while. As some people where late on getting a wahoo I put out my other DTX in Spanish Mackerel on the boat rod and it also was bit. I threw in my two cowbells on the corners and they both were bit but not as often as the DTX. Some things I learned on the DTX. They do not all swim and some will skip out of the water. One guy got bit twice on a DTX that was skipping out there on the longest line. I believe it is due to the split ring rotating and the spit part resting up against the mobile eye on the DTX. On one of mine that started skipping I rotated the split ring and it solved the problem. As far as the hardware and hooks. I did not notice any marked increase of lost fish due to the small barbs. Wahoo are lost all of the time on all lures. No wahoo is caught until it has been clubbed. My purple fusilier DTX was trolled most of the rotations. It is chewed up but still working. I would guess it caught at least 10. I looked at the belly split ring and it needs to be replaced as it is starting to get sprung. I will replace it with an Owner Hyper #10.

    Another thing I tried after reading several people being short bit on Jimmy bombs. I removed the spinner blade and split ring. Used a #4 decoy egg snap to clip a #1 or #2 owner stinger treble to the swivel. I tied a 3 inch thin piece of pink construction tape to the main hook to give it some motion like Whoodad mentioned. They can not sniff it without getting hooked up. I only had one opportunity at one and it stuck well. Not enough of a data set but I will try it some more to find out. No one else caught one on the bomb or jig.

    One more thing I tried. Short wire, like 3 inches 50 lb knot too Kinky with a decoy egg snap #4 one side and a small #4 ring on the other side. I would tie to 60lb 6ft flouro top shot. This would allow me to quickly change bombs or jigs. I am thinking that with that short of a piece of wire it is not really noticed and it is almost like fishing straight 60lb flouro in presentation.

    Yellows of course were very good. It was an opportunity to try all kinds of different things. You heard of one getting them with the BBZ. I like to fool around and experiment. I know that most of the time the guys fishing the bait will get the most action. With 33 people on the boat I just did'nt want to hassle with the show in the stern. On the Excel you are not allowed to sling jigs aft of the front of the bait tank. I certainly understand the reason for this. So I practiced throwing jigs up against the house and could get some pretty good distance with what I call the round house cast. When they were deep the most productive was the yoyo. I used some JRI stingers and some JRI 6 heavies. They did well but the one that seemed to do really well was a deadhead jig from Dennis in the brown glitter. But they really bit anything. I had fun slow pitch jigging and caught several that way. I found on a sport boat it is not hard to hook them slow pitch but with such a limber pole it is hard to keep them from rubbing you off on the boat if you can not get around the corner. With the crowd in the stern that was kind of hard to do. I tried speed jigging with a dedicated setup. I found it hard on me and kind of exhausting. I think I will pass on it in the future. But what I really enjoyed was getting them on the surface. JRI 4 mint, gold and white did it for me plus I tried a JRI 1 canary yellow with red tip. Caught some really nice ones on that jig. The funnest thing I did was use the popper when they were on the surface. Heru 95 skipjack blue and green mackerel. The Capt. said yellows don't do that well on the popper just as I was getting ready to throw out. I didn't need the fish to take home so I thought what the heck. Explosive blowups and multiple fish on that popper. Sooo much fun!!

    We were filled up on Yellows so tried some grouper drifts. I hate dropper loops but I really like grouper, so down she goes. No grouper for me but we put probably close to a dozen on the boat. We pulled up to Geronimo on the way up the line. Nice reds. I slow pitched for them and did well but hard to beat bait. Then we pulled up in front of the fish camp on the island and drifted for halibut. Once again none for me, but some guys really put on some really nice ones capped by Renee's 54lb monster. A really fun end to the trip.

    First time on the Excel for me. Nice boat I would fish it again.
    Things I liked:
    -wide decks along the house
    -8 foot poles fit in the rod racks
    -two rocket launchers for each person
    -Plenty of showers
    -very stable due to size
    -Internet top notch worked the whole time
    -They want you to catch fish
    -tackle center nice
    -I ended up on top deck with my box and it worked well for rigging

    There are some things I would change but overall a nice experience.
    Hope this helps someone
    Floyd
     
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    Good stuff!

    I was wondering how big that flatfish was. 54lbs :oinker:
     
  3. Artois

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    Nice read, thanks
     
  4. hucklongfin

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    Nice report. I've caught YT on the popper and had others follow along trying to take it out of it's mouth so yes, YT hit poppers!
     
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    Very helpful. Could you tell a drunk guy what a BA jig and a bbz is? I’m sure I will feel stoopit afterward.
     
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    Tady BA heavy jig you can swim it a little slower than a rip like you do with raiders.

    Spro BBZ 1 fast sink lure hinged swim bait lure that looks like a fish. Used mainly for stripers and muskies but they have some in mackerel pattern.
     
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    AHHh I remember someone posting that spro lure on here a week or so ago now. Thanks for the report.
     
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    Great Report. I really appreciate it.
    I'm leaving on 8-1 on a 7 day. Polaris Supreme. Our 20'th year. We are going with 16 at this point unless someone jumps on. I'm hoping it's straight to Alijos.
    33 on any size boat is too many for me these days but the big X is a great ride.
    Just got word that the decent YFT have arrived down below as well.
    I like that short wire to floro with a clip although I usually fish about an 16 inch wire tied to floro. thinking straight spectra to wire.
    And yea the yellows on the surface iron. Super fun
    Thanks again for the report. Super helpful.
     
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    Like a larger version of a, TLC
     
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    Let em eat 74 Well-Known "Member"

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    Great write up Floyd, both detailed and informative. Glad you had a good trip on the big X. See you next year on the same 10 day?
     
  12. floydlpackard

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    Ill be there. I'd rather fish variety this time but will take what comes.
     
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    Great report Floyd! I was the guy catching wahoo while skipping the Nomad! Seemed to work as well as a popper as it did as a diving lure!

    I did well on the yoyo using a pacific lure squid jig until I lost it! Gotta keep checking for frayed line!! Worked as good as bait and easy to drop in wherever you want!

    Great fishing with you and hope to get the chance again in the future!

    Richard
     
  14. Steve K

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    Floyd, thanks, enjoyed reading your report. Can you please snap a pic of your re-rigged bomb? Adding a treble hook to the single hook? I had to Google the Decoy Egg Snap. Would like to see it all rigged up. Again, thanks for taking the time to write it up!
     
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    Awesome report Floyd. Great info,appreciate you sharing those pointers of success.
     
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    Good to hear good things about the Excel. I went on an 8 day in 2013. Justin was not the captain. I think the guy's name was Santiago. Only saw him twice in 8 days, no presence whatsoever as a captain. He was a total a..hole. I have found many other boats with great captains.
     
  17. floydlpackard

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    Here you go Steve and a couple of other pictures to show what I saying about the DTX
    I know I forgot to snap the egg snap for the picture.


    bomb2 (1).jpg bomb2 (2).jpg dtx1a.jpg dtx3a (2).jpg dtx3za (1).jpg
     
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  18. denis

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    Thanks Floyd. For the colors that worked guys always ask me what colors work in all the different places there going to go. Glad deadhead lures worked for u. Great report also. They really help!
     

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