Every Dog Has its Day - An Island Tale

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  1. Rodless_Jim

    Rodless_Jim I've posted enough I should edit this section

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    Awesome description, Andre! You are making me remember my visits to the island! And you are almost convincing me to maybe try to write a report on my next trip...

    More, please!
     
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  2. gved823

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    Like the picture of all the guts in the bin, is it dumped when the boat leaves the spot?
     
  3. vegasandre

    vegasandre I've posted enough I should edit this section

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    hey Chris what's up ? we should try to do a 10 day next fall . think Dave can't go after October due to work though pm me your cell number .
     
  4. Lake

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    The local pangueros make regular visits picking up the guts and sharked tuna for lobster bait.
     
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  5. vegasandre

    vegasandre I've posted enough I should edit this section

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    There is nothing I like more than a Rodless report . the reports are fun but they do take a time and memory which sometimes I find lacking . let me know when the next trip is .
     
  6. Rodless_Jim

    Rodless_Jim I've posted enough I should edit this section

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    It looks like maybe February, though nothing has been finalized. That's when I hope to go, anyway.

    And it is my memory that is the problem. Once upon a time, my recall was pretty good. These days it has become abysmal. The past couple of trips I have tried to take notes along the way, but with spending so many hours at the rail, and the rest of the time eating or sleeping, all of my best intentions came to nothing.

    I really will try this time, though.

    Now get on with it already, Andre!
     
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  7. fishkilr

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    We used to bring porno mags and American beer for those guys and they would load us up with bugs for a dinner..
     
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  8. vegasandre

    vegasandre I've posted enough I should edit this section

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    Part 4
    Day 3- A dog without a bone

    The 2 am wake up call.
    Time to make the donuts(or bait)

    That first 15 minutes when you wake up at o dark thirty can be tough. You never know where you are.
    I seem to have crazy vivid dreams when I am on the LR trips. Captain Roy comes on over the PA and interrupts some nutty dream of mine.

    Ok , lets make some macks.

    Bait making is pretty successful. We get our quota within an hour or so . Some go back to bed while others and myself stay up and dropper loop for some YT.


    I go grab my Rock star energy drink.

    Within about 5 minutes I get one hooked up. And there is a slow pick on yellowtail in the early morning darkness.
    As the dark turns to gray we even get a couple small Tuna in the Battleship Lee night spot.

    Once the sun rises Capt Roy makes the decision to go back towards Monster Rock.

    Breakfast is cooking, but as usual ,I don't partake in it. I usually only eat breakfast on travel days and just usually have my energy drink and fruit on fishing days. I am weird.

    We make the couple mile short trip to Monster Rock and put out the Marauders in futility.

    Chris trying to get that wahoo.
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    The Rock
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    This whole trip we would do this as we made the short trek between the 2 spots and wouldn't sniff a hoo.

    Guadalupe should be a good Wahoo spot but its not for whatever reason. Water temp was 73.5 ish. The place just doesn't have a big Wahoo population.
    We had one knockdown on the troll and one bait caught wahoo for the whole trip.

    As we get close to Monster Rock I notice that there is a bit of a breeze developing. Nothing Major though.

    When the anchor sets, Chris and I partake in our usually Asian style jig rotation with some success and casualties. Its a lot of work , but I enjoy it.

    Get a hit, get rocked, get the fish in, get half the fish in,lose your jig in the rocks- some combination of that.
    The 6x guys were still getting skunked.

    Chris with a good one
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    Within about 20 minutes the kite gets hit and the Tuna fishing gets started.

    I go grab my 80lb setup and see Jaime and Dave plying their baits at the rail .
    The Kite gets knocked down every time within a few minutes of being out with the double trouble rigs.

    Soon there is more bites and then I get picked up on a shoulder hooked dine. Land the 70 pound fish.

    Pretty soon I see Jaime Hooked up and Dave hooked up.
    The bites are coming steadier as the day gets longer (afternoon bite) and the wind is blowing 15-20.

    Dave lands his fish.
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    "Hey Jaime - Did you get fish in?"

    He replied- "No - Shark came up and swallowed it whole" (or something Jaws-esque like that)

    Ok , I am thinking he needs to focus or wait for his kite rotation or something. He is number 27 so he has a bit of a wait to get off the tuna snide.

    The bite is pretty solid today. If you picked a lively bait and got it out from the boat - you had action.
    There were plenty of tangles, lost fish and the usual.

    Yes, a yellowtail on the Capt Jimmy bomb
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    Mid day I switched to my 60 lb and had success but also lost some line.
    An hour ago I lost some line from a tangle on my 80lb setup too.

    I Asked Big D how we were looking on 60/80/100 braid on the boat to fill these reels eventually.
    Big D says all they have is 130.

    Ok, fuck. I had really one 60 and 1 80 lb outfit that I was primarily bait fishing with. Yes I have 16 other freakin' rods but a 2nd 60 and a 2nd 80 lb was omitted stupidly .
    I still had "enough line" on both reels and dealt with it.

    (Note to self- bring extra braid on next Lupe trip and bring multiple 60/80 bait setups)

    The Lupe is a "in between " fishery.
    On the usual short and mid range trips you usually use 30-50 lb setups mostly.
    On the cow trips you usually use 100+lb setups mostly.

    Typicaly, the 60 and the 80lb are the reels you don't use that much . You use 80 as a dropper loop or troll reel but the 60 seldom gets used.

    Out at Guadalupe the 60 and 80lb setups is what you mostly use.

    My roomie Matt with a nice fish
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    Jaime finally gets up on the kite and gets bit .
    He walks the fish up to the bow. I remain in the stern and also got bit.
    As I am fighting a fish I see Jaime coming past me with a fish.
    And there he goes up to the bow again.

    I get the bread and butter Tuna in and I don't see Jaime.
    I am sure he must of gotten that fish in , he was using my kite rod .

    "Hey Jaime - Did you get fish in?"
    "Nope - I lost it"

    Some skunks smell worse than others.

    The steady action continues. Every now and then I would grab my popper setup, go to the bow and cast at some busting fish. Chris would do the same as well as Jaime and Dave

    These Tuna wanted nothing to do with the plastics or wood. I tried everything . Halcos, Rumbohs, Heru's, ROnz's, Yozuris.
    Not even a look. they were feeding on small flying fish too. Man, I cant believe that we didn't get a touch.

    Mid day There was a cool Jaws sighting on my right,
    watch the short video , that is me pumping my fist on the left
    Shark attack on video


    At the end of the afternoon we probably caught about 100 tuna. That is a very good day or maybe even a "great day". They stopped the kite mid day because the bite was so steady.

    I decided before the trip that I would keep 5 Yellowfin and 5 YT (along with any wahoo ,Ha ha)and give the rest away.
    By the end of the day, my quota was filled and I was giving them away.

    Dave got a couple, and as far as Jaime, well , that Dog went without a bone today.

    Soon it was back to our night spot a couple miles away where we enjoyed a great Sushi/sashimi dinner spread like no other prepared by Cleveland Mark and Jersey Joe our cooks for the trip.

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    We Made some bait after dinner which was successful - No Making donuts tomorrow zero dark thirty

    I Try for some dropper loop YT for an hour or so then go to bed.

    I love being out here.
     
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  9. potuna

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    I love reading this story, I was on the Royal Star at the lupe in early August and had a similar experience.
     
  10. NaplesJohn

    NaplesJohn Never Forget 343

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    Being a report writer, I know the work that you put into these reports. I can also relate to the memory challenges! Regardless, much thanks for the report, I need to get on a lupe trip!!!
     
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  11. IrieMitch

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    Thank you so much for this. I was lucky enough to get to the 'Lupe early on in my fishing days and this report is taking me right back. I can't wait to enjoy the rest of this.
     
  12. vegasandre

    vegasandre I've posted enough I should edit this section

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    Part 5 - The dog gets a tummy rub

    Day 4



    I set the alarm for 5 AM . No Bait making today.

    Another crazy dream when the alarm goes off.

    After remembering I am on a LR boat at Guadalupe, I gather my boots and eventually wander on deck There are a few people out there dropper looping for YT.

    Jaime and Dave were not to be found yet. They still need their beauty sleep I am sure.

    These guys are pretty funny. I should know better after 10 trips with them . They like to sleep.

    Jaime is from Cleveland but lived in Vegas all of his adult life. He is a story teller.

    Too bad I have heard them all a thousand times. But he loves telling them. He can sure get an audience going with his animated deliveries. Despite his current funk, he is a good fisherman , But streaky as all hell- Hot or cold.

    Jaime does not like to splurge on tackle. He brings the bare essentials and borrows the rest off me. That is fine as I have enough stuff(except the 60 and 80lb gear). He can tell a good story but he doesn’t like to spend his coin on fishing tackle usually claiming some kind of poverty(he isn’t poor).

    Dave is a level headed, easy going, Vikings fan who disdains certain kinds of food-like beans. He has known Jaime since he was in High school when Jaime hired him as a stock boy at Albertson’s .

    Fishing brought us all together and now here we are –another day coming at Guadalupe.

    I go and get my breakfast of champions –my Rock star energy drink and my dropper loop rig to start the grey hours off.

    At Lupe you need at least a 100lb dropper setup at night . It’s the same yellowtail fishing as everywhere else except that the fish make a beeline for a very rocky bottom. You need to use 16 ozs of lead even in a light current. You want that bait straight up and down five cranks off the bottom. Put on a Mack, Button down the drag and hold on.

    And that is what I did and scored a good dropper loop YT in short order. We had a decent early AM YT bite mixed in with a few schoolie Tuna. The YT would not hit the jigs in this “lee of the Battleship” night zone. Not sure why. They just wanted Macks.

    Greg with a early AM YT
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    Soon ,Jaime and Dave joined us on deck as Captain Roy turned on the engines to head back to our daytime spot- Monster Rock.

    Once again we put out the Marauders for the short 15 minute ride, in vain.

    This morning the bite wasn’t going that great. We had some YT at the Monster rock area too till about 9 am. Chris and I had some action on the Asian jigging deal while most were caught on the dropper.

    Author with a YT
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    There were a few tuna caught on the kite but the bait fishing hadn’t kicked into gear yet.
    But even a slow morning can have a good story....


    About Late morning Jaime get his turn on the Kite.

    Jaime really needs to get off his tuna snide and the kite will be the answer hopefully.
    After 5 minutes there is a blow up on his bait and he is soon on with a decent fish.


    Jaime has got the rail thing down
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    There was some action at the time with a couple fish hooked.

    About 15 minutes later Jaime makes his way around the bow and back towards the port stern with Monster rock in front of him.


    in the corner
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    The fish is coming up to the surface. Here it is, almost in.

    About 30 feet short of the surface the fish, Jaime can't budge him.

    What is going on Dude? Captain Roy quickly lends his helping hand.

    It seems like he is snagged on a couple other lines and maybe another fish in the corner.

    After a few minutes Jaime get his rod back and starts fighting the fish, but the fish isn’t budging and when he tries to move him again- the line goes POP!

    Holy bad luck Batman! You have got to be kidding me!

    Jaime takes one look at the line as he reels it up and says some expletive before heading into the cabin in complete disgust.

    I wasn’t sure what to say.

    About 1 minute later as another guy is reeling up his fish there is a broken line wrapped around his line.
    The quick reacting Captain Roy sees this , unwinds that line and realizes that its hooked to a fish.

    He yells for Jaime-who is back in the cabin lamenting his recent casualty.

    I go in there and yell for him.

    "Jaime come out here quick"


    Jaime comes running out as Roy ties the broken line back on the reel.

    He can’t believe the turn of events!
    In no time at all Jaime gets this fish in.

    Off the Snide (for now)
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    The rest of the day was fairly slow. We made a move towards Battleship lee area mid day and found tuna going crazy chasing small flying fish.

    The usual suspects grabbed the popping rods and headed towards the bow in anticipation.

    Cast , Cast ,cast Change lure, change lure, change lure. Cast , Cast Cast.
    They werent going for it. .

    Meanwhile there was a very slow plunker bite going on in the lee and that is where we would stay till evening under perfect weather conditions.

    Roomie Matt with a personal best
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    Someone picked off that lone Wahoo on bait and no wire.
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    Slow day but a fun day.

    We made the even shorter move towards our bait night spot and made easy macks after dinner.

    I tried the usual dropper loop thing for a half hour then quit and went to bed.
     
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  13. sealskinner

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    Great story. Kept looking for the dog.
     
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    EPIC story! I may be mistaken, but I think that the "dog" is Jaime, Mike.
     
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    How did the Terez rods hold up?
     
  16. gved823

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    Never met, but feel like I know you. Great storytelling. Can't wait for the next chapter. Thanks
     
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  17. vegasandre

    vegasandre I've posted enough I should edit this section

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    Part 6 - The Dreaded O’fer

    Day 5



    Another 430 am Wake up call at the Lupe

    Where is Jaime and Dave? While I am finding my boots, hat , socks etc in the dark without waking my roomie- Matt, I am trying to recall a time that they have ever gotten up before me on any fishing day, on any trip.

    Oh yes , Now I remember -the Brownie escapade. They were up before me that day. We shall leave that mistake at that and chalk it up as a learning experience.

    It’s another beautiful morning ,but for one unlucky dog today would be the stuff of nightmares.

    Being that we seem to have this Lupe thing down , we all fall into the routine.:

    Dropper loop for YT first thing , maybe flyline a little at grey light and early AM before hauling the anchor as we make the 15 minute move to Monster rock with Marauders in tow.

    Fishing this AM is decent. I don’t recall anything crazy or abnormal happening – the exciting storyline will have to wait for mid and late day.

    early AM in at the "night spot"- you can see how close Monster Rock is in the distance is
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    The wind is blowing somewhat this AM maybe 10-15 kt. As we make the move towards The Rock- it dies a quick death.

    Same deal at the rock. Start out doing the YT jigging thing then end up flylining for yellowfin.

    During the slow periods I would always come up to the bow and take a few drops with the jig to see if there was any action. Today the current was slow .

    Chris Stella-ing it.
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    The YFT fishing this morning was ok. Mostly 60-80lb fish with a few over 100. With the good action thus far, The kite rotation is not a rotation anymore. They are just putting people out there who have gotten mostly snake bit. But it’s like you had to ask , so If you didn’t ask – you didn’t get a shot at the kite.

    Not sure why Jaime didn’t get called. Maybe he did get called but I know it didn’t work out.

    Close to the Rock
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    By the time We left Monster Rock at midday ,Jaime was 0 for 2.

    So let’s get back to those Shimano Terez rods. Dave is a huge Shimano fan . In Las Vegas the only real tackle shop is Bass Pro Shops . Bass Pro has a lot of stuff but mostly fresh water. They have a ton of reels but don’t really carry a great deal of west coast saltwater application type rods like Calstar, Seeker,Phenix etc. They do luckily have the Terez Rods though.

    Last year the Terez wods worked fine on a 7 day for the usual Ridge variety stuff. So Dave and Jaime went out and got a couple of the heavier 100-200lb rated stuff for this trip

    Now where Shimano gets these heavy ratings from is a mystery to me. Maybe they tested it out on carp or something.

    Here is how these rods performed.: Jaime would hook a fish . He would hi stick it while going around the boat while the fish was out a ways-usually close to the surface. Sometimes he would go around 2x before he got the fish up and down and he could use the rail. When this Terez rod was put on the rail it would just limit out- there was zero re coil . No lifting power. No lifting power leads to longer fights-Which leads to things happening- which leads to Jaws eating his lunch.
    Shimano's two biggest mistakes IMO:
    1- The Waxwing
    2- The Terez

    The day was still early though.

    During mid day Captain Roy made a run towards the lee area but this time we got pretty close to shore. There was a good sign of fish here. The current was going right for the shore too. No doubt this would be a good spot to try for some land based yellowfin if you ever had an opportunity to do it.
    Like a mini Ascension Island.(I need to go there and try that)

    The kite wasn’t flying well here due to lack of wind. But the current was decent.

    You didn’t have to be in the stern either , with the way the current was going, casting your bait from the port side and bow area was working well. This was a long soak deal here. They wanted the dines butt hooked today. You had to keep letting it out till your bait was almost on land. Because I had a “limited” supply of line on my Mak 15 and Mak 16 with the 60 and 80 on it, I would almost let out all my line and hope that when I get bit he didn’t go the wrong way. For whatever reason, this worked. I would have maybe 30-50 yards left on the spool then I would get bit and turn it. The fish are mean but you really aren’t going to get spooled if you have the right gear and some luck I guess.

    personal best shower -an RP tradition
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    Mid afternoon during a decent plunker bite. Jaime got hooked up again. He took that Terez rod and made his way towards the bow and his date with destiny .

    He came back a bit later and had a great tale of a huge Shark that came completely out of the water and ate his fish. Wish I had that on tape.

    0 for 3

    A little while later they stick Jaime on the Kite. It was tough getting the kite to fly today, due to the light and variable wind situation. The RP crew had to go to their ultralight kite outfit. Eventually with some work they get it flying and Jaime’s double trouble rig is in the zone.

    Fish on.

    So I am thinking he has a good chance at this one., Kite rod and all. About 15 minutes go by and Jaime comes back with another Shark Week tale of Megaladon or something like that.

    0 for 4


    In the mean time I am doing pretty well with my “long soak on limited line” deal. Put a couple in the boat already.

    Dave also is having some luck.

    Pretty soon our charter master Corky , hands one off to Jaime. Corky was using that blue Seaguar Threadlock braid- I like how it looks but not so sure how it works

    About 5 minutes into the fight the Threadlock braid snaps -not even close to the leader. Maybe it was a bad spool of line. Or braid had a nic. Not sure, but I am hesitant now on using it.

    0 for 5

    I get hooked up with a nice 100lb fish that I get in and happily give away.

    Capt Roy then baits Jaime’s Line with a hot sardine after tying his leader. The odds are going to be in his favor with this one.
    Soon thereafter , line starts peeling off and the Terez rod goes into action.

    Dave and I are now next to each other in the stern pondering Jaime’s donut.

    Hey Dave “what do you think the odds are he gets this fish in ?”

    Dave replies- “I think it’s looking good. “

    Then using my Vegas book making skills I lay the odds at 4-1 against the successful landing due to the “continuation of the trend” theory.

    The house always has the edge- SNAP!

    0 for 6

    Jaime is losing it quickly. Dinner tonight is going to be tough. The hard luck stories, the sharks, the pain and suffering

    He gives it another go as the sun is setting.

    Perfect hot bait, right in the corner, letting it out into the zone and soon another fish engulfs it.
    He comes down the corner and makes his way towards the bow where there are a couple others hooked up.
    You already know how this story will end…

    0 for 7

    And that is how it ended today. A good day for some and a tragic day for one.

    We picked up the anchor and made the very short move to the night spot.
    tomorrow will be the last day at Guadalupe before starting to head back to Ensenada .
    I am going to sleep well tonight and get up early for the last Guadalupe day.
    Jaime is feeling it tonight.
     
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  18. Rodless_Jim

    Rodless_Jim I've posted enough I should edit this section

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    Damn! I really feel for Jaime.
     
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  19. potuna

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    Damm I hate when that happens.
     
  20. NaplesJohn

    NaplesJohn Never Forget 343

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    Brutal stretch of the skunk. Great read as always!!!!
     

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