Election Fraud - non-political

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Ok here's your problem. With "perception being reality" you probably have 50m -60m voters who perceive your guy stole the election. Factor in another screw job in Georgia and the Dems have control of all 3 branches of government . If they follow through with their promises to stack the Supreme Court, make states out of DC and Puerto Rico and gut the 2nd ammendment you will have anarchy. Keep in mind very few LEO's, rank and file military will be coming to the Politcos aid who've manifested this potential debacle. This will be "perceived" as an attempt to overthrow the country by a political party.
This year is starting out nice, Pelosi’s
House in SF got vandalized,
I’m so glad they are showing her
How much she is loved,
 
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    yep...the looney left got pelosi....BUT...its on the gateway pundit...so it cant be true

    oh and the pig heads...how appropriate

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    DAS

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    This year is starting out nice, Pelosi’s
    House in SF got vandalized,
    I’m so glad they are showing her
    How much she is loved,
    I'm really not an advocate for violence. And until Trump, politics for most people gas been just business as usual. I think people are pissed off at the political elites and they should be cautious in how they treat the masses
     

    jer dog

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    I'm really not an advocate for violence. And until Trump, politics for most people gas been just business as usual. I think people are pissed off at the political elites and they should be cautious in how they treat the masses
    I just hope she didn’t call the police,
    lol, because they might tip the ones that did it.
     

    Pacific Jigger

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    For those who believe Joe Biden legitimately won the 2020 election, I propose a new and novel idea...
    Instead of attacking the messengers and sources claiming electoral fraud, how about addressing the issue on its merits?
    No name calling, invective, talking points, reactionary statements, accusing someone of believing in crazed conspiracies in an attempt to delegitimize the message without addressing the substance of it.
    A reasoned, thoughtful response to what many from all walks of life are convinced was the outright, blatant theft of a presidential election.
    Can you?
     

    onehottip

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    Unfortunately, it is easier than it should be to point out that you’re denying reality, embracing lies and liars, and repeating them. Please stop embarrassing yourself. Go throw the ball to your dog or something.
    You throw the word lying around like it’s a one sided event. But when your side does it it’s ok? Shifty saw the evidence and forgot to give it to mueller etc. glass house syndrome?
     

    hucklongfin

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    The problem with that is that the whole ”they stole the election” is just a false claim. Prove otherwise! It’s been almost 2 months since the election and nothing has come out that would allow any of the scores of suits to pass muster. Any reasoned, thoughtful analysis would agree that there was no massive fraud that stole the election. Biden is the legitimate winner.
     

    hucklongfin

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    You throw the word lying around like it’s a one sided event. But when your side does it it’s ok? Shifty saw the evidence and forgot to give it to mueller etc. glass house syndrome?
    Not at all, unfortunately, lies and distortion of reality is just the way the political game has come to be played. In the case of “they stole the election from Trump”, uh, no, it didn’t happen. In Georgia, the Republican governor and administration says there was no fraud. Trumps Justice department agrees. Several months of ranting and raving has produced nothing that could be produced in court to show that anything nefarious occurred. The lies and false claims have all been on the side of those claiming fraud.
     

    hucklongfin

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    Any reasoned, thoughtful analysis would agree that there was massive fraud that stole the election

    Biden is the illegitimate winner.
    Based on what? Wishing something to be true does’t make it true. Where is the proof? You’re saying that the dumb ass Democrats in lots of states were all too clever at covering up for you smart guys to figure it out? Like in California, elections most places are conducted at the county level so even more local dumbasses were involved in pulling the wool over your smart clever righteous eyes... oh wait...
     

    Pacific Jigger

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    Not at all, unfortunately, lies and distortion of reality is just the way the political game has come to be played. In the case of “they stole the election from Trump”, uh, no, it didn’t happen. In Georgia, the Republican governor and administration says there was no fraud. Trumps Justice department agrees. Several months of ranting and raving has produced nothing that could be produced in court to show that anything nefarious occurred. The lies and false claims have all been on the side of those claiming fraud.
    I must respectfully make a point concerning a recurring theme here.
    Politics are far more complicated than merely being a Democrat or a Republican.
    (D) and (R) are simply labels to give the voting public a frame of reference.
    Two questions for you, they apply across the political spectrum and as a disclaimer, very few can answer these accurately.
    What fuels politics?
    How is a politician made?
     

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    Nice pics that express your “feelings“ but are based on, and mean nothing. I’m sorry that you may be all ”butt hurt”, yeah I know you have a meme for that, but when it comes to proof you have nothing. Even more, posting this on a Southern California based fishing website, deep in the state of Klownifornia buys you what exactly? Maybe should move to Oklahoma, the buckle of the Bible Belt, where your vote counts and your feelings are reciprocated... that’s what my son did! Y’all will feel right at home.
     
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    I must respectfully make a point concerning a recurring theme here.
    Politics are far more complicated than merely being a Democrat or a Republican.
    (D) and (R) are simply labels to give the voting public a frame of reference.
    Two questions for you, they apply across the political spectrum and as a disclaimer, very few can answer these accurately.
    What fuels politics?
    How is a politician made?
    What fuels politics? Money. The winner gets to hold the knife when the pie is cut. We have a 2 party system so everyone has to fit into one or the other so both represent a wide variety of political beliefs.
     

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    Based on what? Wishing something to be true does’t make it true. Where is the proof? You’re saying that the dumb ass Democrats in lots of states were all too clever at covering up for you smart guys to figure it out? Like in California, elections most places are conducted at the county level so even more local dumbasses were involved in pulling the wool over your smart clever righteous eyes... oh wait...
    Like your patience calling out facts on the Qs😉
     
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    For those who believe Joe Biden legitimately won the 2020 election, I propose a new and novel idea...
    Instead of attacking the messengers and sources claiming electoral fraud, how about addressing the issue on its merits?
    No name calling, invective, talking points, reactionary statements, accusing someone of believing in crazed conspiracies in an attempt to delegitimize the message without addressing the substance of it.
    A reasoned, thoughtful response to what many from all walks of life are convinced was the outright, blatant theft of a presidential election.
    Can you?

    So I believe Biden won. And my reasoned response about shenanigans is thus:

    The Trump-appointed chief of election security said it ain’t so.
    The Trump-appointed attorney general said it ain’t so.
    Dozens of Trump-appointed Federal judges say there’s no there, there.
    The US Supreme Court (which includes 3 Trump-appointed Justices) refused to take the cases presented to them.

    So, yeah, I’m done here. Time to plan for 2022.
     

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    The population keeps increasing and the percent who vote normally isn’t that high but were feeling extra motivation this election. Both parties worked hard to get out the vote. It ain’t rocket science, well, maybe for the party of stupid that doesn’t believe in science that’s led by a narcissistic reality tv star that believes in wacky conspiracy theories that has dragged his party down the rabbit hole.
    this is true
     

    Pacific Jigger

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    What fuels politics? Money. The winner gets to hold the knife when the pie is cut. We have a 2 party system so everyone has to fit into one or the other so both represent a wide variety of political beliefs.
    Yes, the fuel is money. But let’s stop throwing poppers and tie on a jig. Going deeper, where does this money come from, how is it collected, and what is expected in return?
    How is a politician made?
     
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    So I believe Biden won. And my reasoned response about shenanigans is thus:

    The Trump-appointed chief of election security said it ain’t so.
    The Trump-appointed attorney general said it ain’t so.
    Dozens of Trump-appointed Federal judges say there’s no there, there.
    The US Supreme Court (which includes 3 Trump-appointed Justices) refused to take the cases presented to them.

    So, yeah, I’m done here. Time to plan for 2022.
    Go for Ben SASSE, Niki HALEY, Kinzenger...these are just few Republicans who can bring back GOP’s moral core....Not even VP Pence can shade off this Insanity that Trumpism is embracing.

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    hucklongfin

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    Favors, lots of favors in exchange for money, help, future favors, etc. Ya know that they say money is the mother’s milk of politics. The money mostly comes from special interests who are looking to advance their interests.
     

    hucklongfin

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    Go for Ben SASSE, Niki HALEY, Kinzenger...these are just few Republicans who can bring back GOP’s moral core....Not even VP Pence can shade off this Insanity that Trumpism is embracing.
    Actually, Pence has been pushing back against those who want him to help steal the election. Frankly, he’s been such a Trump bootlicker that I was surprised to see some backbone at this late point. I guess his faith/ethics/morality runs deeper than I’d expect in a politician associated with Trump, who clearly has none. After all, he was chosen as VP to help deliver the religious right.
     

    Pacific Jigger

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    Favors, lots of favors in exchange for money, help, future favors, etc. Ya know that they say money is the mother’s milk of politics. The money mostly comes from special interests who are looking to advance their interests.
    Yes, you’re correct in all of the above. And it applies to politicians on both sides.
    Mitch McConnell is one of the most compromised politicians on the Republican slate, Joe Biden is equally as compromised. Funny thing is, they’re beholden to the same group of people.
    But it even goes deeper yet... There’s another component to it. It’s called soft blackmail. Once a politician is compromised, subtle reminders are sometimes used by these interests to remind the person in question of the relationship. If the relationship is terminated by the politician, details of the arrangement are then quietly leaked. Even if the relationship wasn’t clearly illegal, most of the time it’s enough to sink their career. Keep in mind that these relationships aren’t subject to public scrutiny usually and can and do extend far beyond money.
    Who are some of the most powerful special interests, with the most to gain by compromising a politician? Or the most to lose by failing to do so?