Ease into it, or jam it in?

Discussion in 'Southern CA Sport Boat Trip Planning' started by Shade42087, Jul 25, 2018.

  1. Shade42087

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    Alight guys so I wanted some salty advice. I've been waiting to accumulate some vacation so I can catch a boat because I'm itching to get out! Well that time is almost here, and I was curious so I looked at Long Range trips (3-7 Days). So anyways, I have never been on one before. I've actually only been on a couple of gamefish boats here in California, and havent really had a lot of experience yet. I'm not saying I suck, but im still newer to the boat scene. Should I get a couple more overnights/1.5 days under my belt before I go on a long ranger? Just a question, I like to jump into things which isnt necessarily a good thing sometimes. For example, my first offshore trip I didnt even have gear. Went with a guy I worked with, and had absolutely no clue what I was getting into. $450 down the drain. Avoiding doing that again. Would love to hear your thoughts.
     
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    On the Long Range boats, the Captain and crew want you to catch fish. Since you have no Gear, before you book a trip, ask about loaner gear. Most will loan you the rods and reels and only charge you for the line that you use, Usually around $8-10 per outfit They will also sale you the necessary hooks, weights, and other fishing gear needed for the trip that you will be going on. Prices are about the same as that of a tackle store. They will take you under their wing and show you how to fish for what is out there. Long Range fishing is Expensive, but if you catch the bug, it will be worth it. If you then decide to continue, you can start by picking up a few rod and reels each time you go and build up your arsenal. As they saying goes, "give a man a fish and he will eat for the day, Teach a man to fish and he will go to all the fishing shows, hang out in tackle shop, buy new gear, and it goes on and on.
    I have been doing it for about 25 years now, but I can only afford to do it about every 18-24 months. It is just like everything else that people enjoy---It does cost money.
     
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  3. Shade42087

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    I should have specified, I have some decent gear now. I've probably spent ~$5k or so on saltwater gear in the last 8 months. My question wasn't so much for gear, although there is a couple more setups that I know I'll need for a long ranger. I meant more for etiquette. I dont know anything about how things go on long range trips as opposed to shorter trips. Thanks for the reply!
     
  4. 45king

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    U should just jump in and go on the longest trip you can afford. If you walked on the boats and introduced yourself and let the deckhands know that it’s uour first long range rodeo, everyone will be willing to help. It’s the assholes that don’t know anything but come onto the boats acting like they know everything that is the problem! Sign up and go have fun bro!
     
  5. reelbadlarry

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    Just be honest and LISTEN to what the crew and people that know tell you on the boat...you'll be fine.
    There will always be "that guy" on the boat...most fishermen love to share knowledge and help other people enjoy their passion.
    And if you catch a 250lb tuna, you don't have to eat the whole heart.......
     
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    Came here because the title of the post sounded like my first girlfriend
     
  7. Shade42087

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    Hey thanks for the info! I'm seriously looking into a couple long rang trips now instead of just lightly browsing. Not a lot of availability, so I'm gonna call around and maybe set it up for 2019.
     
  8. yakdout

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    That’s how a lot of us started. Definitely sounds like you caught the bug real fast. If I were in your boots, I actually would go on a few more boats before you commit to long range. Perfect your skill so that when you are ready to take the time off and pony up the dough for a long trip, you can make it worth your while. Learn how to flyline a bait faster and further than everyone else, learn how to cast a jigstick fairly well. And pull on as many heavy fish locally as you can. And these triple digit bluefin are pretty local. There are guys Fishing overnight boats right now catching bigger tuna than guys that have been on 14 days. Not a certainty of course but if you fish the right boats a probability for sure. Good luck dude.
     
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  9. Let em eat 74

    Let em eat 74 Well-Known "Member"

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    I would suggest to go long right off the bat. The shorter trips have smaller windows of opportunity to catch and to learn. The people you might be depending on to learn are going to be busy filling their tags. On a long trip, the more relaxed atmosphere allows time for someone to really show you more nuances that will make you more successful every time you leave the dock. More crew members on deck are part of what you pay for, and they are worth it in my opinion. Deckhands on the short trips are good, don’t get me wrong, but are often busy.
     
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  10. swami 805

    swami 805 I've posted enough I should edit this section

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    Get on the longest trip you can afford and on a true long range boat. It's a whole different deal in almost every respect. No better place to learn than on the water and it's a much more relaxed atmosphere.
     
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    See and thats exactly what I was worried about in the first place. If it is literally different in every aspect, then going on more overnight/1.5 trips wont really help me if im on a long ranger. Thanks to all of you, once again.
     
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    Never been on anything longer than a 1.5 day, but this sure has hell holds true for the shorter trips as well.

    Take this guys advice on any boat you get on no matter the length of the trip. Your learning curve will look much better if you do. They will tell you everything you need to know in the pre trip meeting, whatever that looks like on the long range trips. Just pay attention and when you forget or don't feel right about something just ask a crew member.
     
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    Jump into the game , be positive , introduce yourself to the crew , Have fun !
     
  14. swami 805

    swami 805 I've posted enough I should edit this section

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    Look at it like a vacation and the fish are a bonus. They do mini seminars on the way down on about everything you’ll be doing. You’ll have plenty of travel time to get everything put together.
    Deckhands will show you everything you’ll need to know. Unless they go for the bluefin you’ll have at least a day of travel.
    Bring what you got, the boat will have what you don’t and likely be some other passengers willing to help. Just go
     
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    SouthBayKiller I've posted enough I should edit this section

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  16. wils

    wils lazy-ass well known "member"

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    Make your first trip 5 days or longer on a 100'+ boat. It will feel more like a fishing cruise ship after riding the 1-3 day boats - treat it as such and you will have a better time overall than if you are merely going to "catch fish". You WILL catch fish but if the weather is up or the fishies are down, you'll still have a good time.

    Knowing how things go? at least you have been fishing on some local boats. Some folk on these trips haven't even done that.

    Etiquette? remember, as nice as the boat, crew, and fellow anglers are...… its still a gd fishing boat/fishing trip...not a debutante ball.

    PS: you might want to ask about LR stuff on the LR Board. ;)
     
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  17. Shade42087

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    Definitely will do that. I like to listen into seminars, and I'm constantly looking up technique when I can't get out. I'm going!
     
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  18. Shade42087

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    Lol, see what I mean? I didn't even know the was a long range board! Thanks for the info! I'm glad it's still a fishing boat, I'm not so much into being pampered.
     
  19. talltales

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    I went from 1.5 day trips to a 9 day trip to a 15 day trip in 1 year. Never had a problem,( except now I want to go on long trip waaaay to much) All of the long range boats in S/D are good, but you may like some better than others (you just need to try a few) A 3 day is not a big step up from a 1.5 day to me, 5 or 6 days is a good start to be called real long range fishing. 7 to 10 days gives you and the boat options to fish different locations for a verity of fish. I really like the 10 day trips that run in the October/November time.
     
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  20. hucklongfin

    hucklongfin Deep release specialist

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    These days a 3 day trip will go the same places as the 1 1/2 day boats but stay there an extra day. 5 days tend to go to Guadalupe if they have permits. The places the 5 days used to go are now closed and/or out of limits which is why there are fewer of those trips. Go for an 8-10 day trip in the fall for big variety of fish and good opportunities. i went from my longest being a 3 day to a 5 and 10 day in the same year. I prefer the 10 day trips!
     

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