DROPPER LOOP FOR YELLOWTAIL

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When on a Long Range trip, fishing the dropper loop for Yellowtail, usually at night for the Mossback yellows, do you keep your reel in gear, with a tight drag or do you keep in free-spool like most other types of Long Range fishing? Also, Is it better to have a longer mono top-shot (50-75 ft) for needed stretch, or a short top-shot to avoid any un-necessary stretch. It has been a while since I have fished for the Larger Yellowtail with a dropper loop.
 

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What he said.

You really don’t want to give them an inch. As soon as you get picked up, straight grind and winch them right up away from structure. I’ll usually fish a dropper loop in gear at the depth where they’re being metered or just give it a few cranks off the bottom, foregrip on the rail, ready to lay the wood to the unfortunate yellow below.

If you’re fishing at night, stealth is out the window - use heavier line and an overpowered rod and reel setup. Hell, you could even start in low gear for the first few cranks just to gain an advantage, then pop back to high gear once you feel you’re away from rocks / bottom and have the fish going the right direction.
 
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As said, fish in gear. When you feel the rod starting to load up, start reeling!
 
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They guys in the know have spoken above.... my limited experience was with those pig yellows last fall at the rocks. Drop after drop, 25-45 lb. yellows. I used my one heavy outfit, same as I used for flat falls on BF first day of the trip. Those yellows pulled 30 lbs. of drag probably at least once on most fish. I started in high the first few fish... went to low right away after those first few... rod bends double, turn the handle, get'em off the bottom... get'em in the boat!
 
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Agree with the “unanimous decision “ of in gear. A couple tidbits that helped me go from....getting rocked 2 out of 3.....to no more getting rocked:


1. while waiting for a bite, have the tip pointed down low. As soon as I’m bit, the tip goes up and the butt end of the rod ( and me, squatting) goes down low.

2. I fish with the reel in low gear, and very high drag....like 30 lbs. So as i do #1 above, I am also turning the handle.

doing these together holds that big yellow up off the bottom....even if it’s only 5 - 8 ft off the bottom.

Battle tested on big Lupe fish at night.

Just say no to getting rocked.

p.s. use a heavy rod. For me, 7465H
 
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    What's the deal with that rod? I've never seen one like it and have no idea why you'd want one like that.
     
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    At Guadalupe in 2019 we were going after those possessed yt. Fishing method as described above. New custom rod and reel.My first catch..I ripped into the bite...it headed for the rocks...i battled it up to the boat...what a catch...4 1/2 to 5 feet long...too bad it was a mean moray eel...I also like to yoyo for the big yt. My biggest just under 50#
     
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    What's the deal with that rod? I've never seen one like it and have no idea why you'd want one like that.
    I have a feeling we are gonna find out soon.

    Thanks, Dave.
     
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    At bola i was dropper looping with strike set at 30 lbs and they pulled drag! So I increased it to 36 lbs and that amount was sufficent. We didn’t lose many maybe one or two but the key was not letting them take an inch. We layed the rod on the rail with the reel in low gear and waited for the rod to load up then started winding as fast as we could. We used 20’ of 100lb first string and owner gorilla ringed 4/0 tied with a surgeons loop. In hindsight the hooks were a bit small for that amount of drag, i am surprised we didnt pull any. Going back in 2 months and am going to bring ringed gorilla 6/0
     
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    With the big mossbacks you want to use as heavy of gear as possible, that saying, I bring a seperate dropper loop rod with topshot on it so I'm not stretching out the topshot on my Tuna Rods. I fish 130lb mono wind on to 130lb braid, on there I fish either a 16 or 32 ounce weight (Aleijos was 32) and I use a big 7/0-9/0 super mutu circle hook. Keep the reel in low gear until you get ten or 15 cranks ups, I had a 52lb yellowtail pull 34lbs of drag on me and almost break me off. After about 100 or so feet it seems like the YT give up and float to the surface like a rockcod.
     
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    I was going to ask the next question about what size (J or Circle) hooks to use and how much weight to use. Do you use lighter line for the weight so if it should get caught at the bottom, it is easier to get your line back?
    When it is a night bite, usually what is the best time to go after them; After dark or much later in the night-very early morning?
    How well does using a YO-YO jig at night, or is that more of a daytime type of fishing?
     
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    I always use J hooks for YT; if you let the fish swallow a circle hook, you'll be rocked before you come tight. I typically use a size 7/0 or so for YT. And a stupid tight drag.
     
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    I was going to ask the next question about what size (J or Circle) hooks to use and how much weight to use. Do you use lighter line for the weight so if it should get caught at the bottom, it is easier to get your line back?
    When it is a night bite, usually what is the best time to go after them; After dark or much later in the night-very early morning?
    How well does using a YO-YO jig at night, or is that more of a daytime type of fishing?
    I personally like big j hooks when dropper looping. You use as much lead as it takes to get your bait down without too much scope in your line- usually at least a pound and I often go up to 2 pounds. I actually have set up dropper loop rigs with lighter line going to the sinker so if the sinker catches you might break free. I’ll also tie the sinker on with a weak not so that’ll give if it hangs on the bottom. The night bite can be early night or almost morning, or anytime in between. You just need to put in your time. Let the crew know you’d like to be woken up when it starts if you do decide to go to bed. Yo yo jigs work well at night. I’ve never gotten real big ones yo young at night. I use a glow in the dark 6X, but I don’t think you need a glowing jig. Fish in beast mode. Pull and crank like crazy when first bit to get them off the bottom. I’ve been at that pinnacle off the northern point at Guadalupe. Those fish would bite and be in the rocks before you came completely tight.
     
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    I was told by Ken years ago to use the biggest J hook I could and it’s how I’ve always done it. Especially with bigger baits. The deckhands will tell you how much lead you’ll need just make sure you bring a couple of everything up to a 16oz.

    jigs work great but try the ones with a big siwash hook vs the treble hooks. The treble hooks can bend and come unbuttoned under heavy drag with a good sized fish on

    Tell the crew to wake you up and make sure you get up to make bait to fish it. Don’t be that guy that doesn’t get up to make bait and is the first one with his hand in the well to fish it. You may not think the crew and rest of the passengers notice but they all do
     
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