Drag stack

maurice escobedo

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Hay folks, so I'm attempting to replace the drag stack in my penn 500, and it's to hi. The reels not going back together the way it should.
Now, when I took it apart, there was only 1 fiber washer, and 1 metal washer. Looking at Alan tani, it shows there should be 6 total.
Well, that's not working on this reel.
Looks like I'll drop 1 of each, and see what happens.
Anyone else have a similar situation?
 

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Snap a picture of the drags on and the drags laid out in the order you are putting them on.


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swami 805

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3 fiber and 3 metal washers. It should fit maybe a little tall til you squeze the grease out. Check the schematic to be sure you have everything in the right order. Either that or the dog is slipping under the gear when you're putting it back together
 

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You need to press the gear down with both thumbs

Sometimes it won't press down unless you give it a little help

All the parts look good but make sure the metal washers also fit in well

Do you have any of the Cals drag grease?


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nu2reels

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When your putting it back together
Hold the bridge plate up in one hand and place the side plate on top so the metal washers don't slide out.


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It looks like there is still washers in the main gear. Make sure all the old washers are out of the gear.
 
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maurice escobedo

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Thanks y'all. Had to get to bed.
I'm gonna try and get this thing out.
I think it's a stuck brass washer of some sort.
Thanks for your help.
 

maurice escobedo

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So, here's what happens when you never service a reel fishing with it for 20 plus years.
I had to force this washer out and now it looks like I'll have to scrape this completely flattened drag out of there.
Lesson learned.
 

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Acetone is your friend. I buy off eBay and rehab so see this quite a bit.

You said their was only one that came out originally so their may be one more stuck in there. I can't quite tell from the picture.


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maurice escobedo

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Acetone is your friend. I buy off eBay and rehab so see this quite a bit.

You said their was only one that came out originally so their may be one more stuck in there. I can't quite tell from the picture.


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Dam, you are correct my friend. Thank you.
I thought I was good to go
 

Amadeus

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Now that you've gotten it completely apart, any thoughts of upgrading the following:
  1. replacing the undergear washer with a delrin one and adding one between the top metal washer and spacing sleeve...can order the delrins from Smooth Drag;
  2. the factory 3+1 to a 5+1 drag stack; and
  3. factory brass gear sleeve to a stainless steel one.
The upgrades are in increasing order of complexity (though not by much)
 
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maurice escobedo

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Now that you've gotten it completely apart, any thoughts of upgrading the following:
  1. replacing the undergear washer with a delrin one and adding one between the top metal washer and spacing sleeve...can order the delrins from Smooth Drag;
  2. the factory 3+1 to a 5+1 drag stack; and
  3. factory brass gear sleeve to a stainless steel one.
The upgrades are in increasing order of complexity (though not by much)
Wow, yeah for sure. I'm definitely interested in upgrading all my penn reels at this point.
They've been very great to me. I'm going to start ordering parts you just listed.
I'm not so scared to take it on now.
Thank you.
 

Amadeus

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Wow, yeah for sure. I'm definitely interested in upgrading all my penn reels at this point.
They've been very great to me. I'm going to start ordering parts you just listed.
I'm not so scared to take it on now.
Thank you.
Reference for the delrins:
http://alantani.com/index.php?topic=13433.0
http://alantani.com/index.php?topic=11488.0

Link to Bryan Young's 5+1 kit:
http://alantani.com/index.php?topic=7568.0

And, I'm sure you already have this one, but just-in-case:
http://alantani.com/index.php?topic=20.0

I've never been a fan of the 24-66 balanced handles, so a 24-56 (if you want to stay Penn classic) or an aftermarket one. I've had good experiences with this arm and the Molded PlasticT-bar:
http://rover.ebay.com/rover/1/711-5...0001&campid=5336488034&icep_item=301192010456

Oh, and check with Alan Tani to see if he has the 96-60AT 2nd gen (if he does, then you could ask Bryan Young to ship it together with the 5+1 drag kit). There appears to be a 96-60Pro that's also compatible...
http://alantani.com/index.php?topic=17457.0

And, as a SANITY CHECK:
http://alantani.com/index.php?topic=7535.0
...just to make sure you know what you are getting yourself into in following our footsteps (a.k.a., the Grand Order of Tackle Ho's).
 
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