DP 10.04.18 Lot’s O Bugs

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  1. the SLIDER

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    11.04.18

    Yep, about 55 shorts, 3 sets for 5 hoops.

    Traveled 5 miles south of Harbor and set in 35 feet of water. A really nice evening sunset, transitioned into a black night with glassy water. It was beautiful and yet mysterious. I had 2 pulls with over 12 Lobster each. 15 net pulls was possible in 2.5 hours with the flat hoops because you don’t have to let them soak very long; usually 30 minutes is sufficient.

    The Dogs came by occasionally while I was waiting nearby to pull the nets so I had to lure them away several times. Nice thing about having the off road lights facing down on the skiff is that the ocean lights up with a round halo usually attracting a small eco-system . I'd drive about 500 feet away then light up the water and the little bastards follow.

    I kept 3 bugs in my bait tank that were marginally legal. I’ve seen Sheriffs Harbor Patrol (SHP) check my catch several times before. They have taken my gauge and crush the softer front part of the Carapace in order to have the gauge slip right over the rear of the Carapace, now making the catch illegal and potentially expensive. I’ve never been sited but I have been humiliated a few times after SHP abused my bugs with their measuring practices. So weighing the pluses and minuses I tossed the 3 bugs back into the drink with a heavy heart.

    I was going to have a video to show, however while changing the battery in the GoPro, the camera slipped out of my hand into the bilge. My other regular video camera I mount at the bow was messing with me to, so I didn’t get any good video to produce.

    I believe the Lobster Cards are a great concept but I’m not sure if we are capturing the overal health of the species. My card would show the ocean is barren and void of Spiny Lobster since we only report the catch; maybe there should be catch and release column as well as possessed.

    That was my first trip hooping this year and as far as numbers, one of my best trips for the 2.5 hours I set and pulled. Can’t wait to go again!

    Good luck Gents.
     
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    Thanks for the report!
     
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  3. longboard85

    longboard85 I've posted enough I should edit this section

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    Good effort thanks for the report!
     
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    If their eyes move when you measure them let them go :)
     
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    makairaa I've posted enough I should edit this section

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    What the wardens refer to as clicker lobsters, because the gauge clicks into place.
     
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    Heard the story many times about measuring practices, and seen it a few years ago. It's just not worth the headache IMO, no matter how much the other side of you says "ahh come on, do it"!

    I too agree the Lobster card could be misleading about the sustainability of the species.
    First thing I'd add would be a number of short Lobster caught each night.

    Good Karma headed your way!
    Can't tell you the exact date, but when the witch fly's in on her broom I'll have her try to redefine it.
    It certainly won't hit you today.
    Ya think I'm kidding'?! LMAO!
    Take care. John.
     
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    Seems like a logical request.

    Good effort. DP land of the shorts after the second week.

    Didn't think the Harbor Patrol/Sheriffs Department had jurisdiction to check your catch unless they suspected you of other illegal activities outside of fish and wildlife regs.? Was there a DFW officer on board?
     
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    No such thing as marginally legal.They're legal or they're not.
     
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    Gotta love it when the government invites itself into your life....
     
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    I was scratching my head when I read your part about OCSD, if the gauge touches on both sides, its a legal!
     
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    When they are bored from sitting, they take a cruise, They will wait and chase you to the dock.

    Yep. My point is that there is a softer part of the front shell (carapace) between the horns that easily can be crushed with the gauge, up to about 3/32"; When the gauge hooked in the front between the horns, then barely clearing the back part of the carapace is marginally legal. Someone wants to crush that soft part of the shell can, making a formally legal Lobster a potential citation..

    Like makairaa referenced,

     
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    Actually, that part is supposed to be compressed when measuring it is the actual carapace, that is the soft tissue that joins the eyes.

    The gauge goes on the front, pushed to the carapace, then set on the back of the carapace, or hopefully not. If you have to “push” the back on it is legal. If the front is compressed and the back has to wedge on, good to go, zero space allowed. By definiton a soft part is not a shell.

    That meaty soft part is NOT what is used to measure them.
     
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    Mike,

    They can check boats for safety and other requirements and any LEO can enforce the Fish and Game Code.
     
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    I've had a few bugs that had a hard shell come off and the new shell is still soft. Nobody knew how to measure them. Visually they were legal though.
     
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    When in doubt, throw them back. If you're unsure, they are short.
     
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    How did you cook them ? They are thick in the space under my dock
     
  18. the SLIDER

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    Get me some Harcor. I'm not a huge Lobster fan as far as eating them. My friends love me for giving them away. Fun as hell pulling up a net in the dark and seeing and hearing all the commotion. There's a few of us that got the BUG 4 BUGS, lol.
     
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  19. gonzo25

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    seriously? boil them till the shell turns red. I like to BBQ mine, cook them with the shell down and spoon some butter on top of the meat, when the butter is boiling between the shell and the meat flip it over to put some grill marks on the meat and it is done. cook it next to your steak. there are plenty of ways to fix them but this is how i do it. do you know how to clean them?
     
  20. mhanson59hb

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    That's a tough night of hooping!

    As for measuring them, put it between the horns, but not over the soft fleshy bulge right below it. They say if it just fits of the end of the carapace with no wiggle room it's a legal - but I throw those back anyway. I don't want to give the DFW any way to make my legal catch illegal.

    Anyway - you'll get 'em next time!
     
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